Page 4 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast
Results 31 to 40 of 50

Thread: Bills interested in OG Brian Waters

  1. #1
    Member Since
    Dec 2008
    Posts
    16
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Default Bills interested in OG Brian Waters


    0 Not allowed!
    The Buffalo Bills are interested in trading for disgruntled Kansas City Chiefs guard Brian Waters, according to a trusted source.
    The Bills, in the market for a new left guard after releasing Derrick Dockery on Thursday, could be looking to land the four-time Pro Bowler for a deal similar to the Marcus Stroud trade last year, when they gave up third and fifth round draft picks.
    Waters has become disenchanted with the additions to the Chiefs organization. According to Kansas City Star writer Jason Whitlock, Waters asked for his release after new general manager Scott Pioli said he had no interest in meeting him. Whitlock said that Waters was “offended and shocked.”
    Also according to the report, several Arizona Cardinals, including Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald, gave new head coach Todd Haley less than glowing reviews. Haley was called “condescending and ignored by veterans.”
    While Waters is 32 years of age and the Chiefs offensive line struggled mightily, there is little doubt about his ability to perform. He would be an instant upgrade over Dockery and could give Buffalo one of the finer left sides of the offensive line in the NFL alongside Jason Peters.
    The Bills would likely have to give Waters a new deal. He’s in the fourth year of a six year, $26.5 million deal and has made no bones about declaring himself underpaid.
    While an interest in a Waters trade hasn’t been made public, a source inside the organization tells me the Bills are “very much interested in him.”
    Pioli refused to honor his request to be released and weren’t open to trading him. But that could change after the Chiefs lost a second-round pick in acquiring Matt Cassel from the New England Patriots. By trading the displeased Waters, the club could recoup draft picks as well as not have their new franchise quarterback hampered
    per Scout.com

    thoughts?

  2. #31
    Member Since
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    548
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Default


    0 Not allowed!
    Brian Waters should take some advice from Bruschi

    What Gets You Motivated Before You Hit The Field?

    Tedy Bruschi, New England Patriots

    Winning championships. That's all it should be about for any player.

  3. #32
    Member Since
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    118
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Default


    0 Not allowed!
    You guys are crazy if you think Brian Waters is only worth a 3rd and 5th...

    Who the heck are you going to get to replace Brian in the 3rd round...maybe in the future they can help but I'm not sure about right away???

    I know he's getting old but he still has about 2-4 good years left in him...I think he's more important to the O-line the next 2 years than most people think...

    Our line would be miserable the next 2-4 years if we filled our O-line w/ low round draft picks...

    Our biggest mistakes last year was passing on 2 O-line guys in the Big 12...

    Anthony Collins in the 4th (we took Will Franklin instead)
    and
    Carl Nicks in the 5th (We took Brandon Carr.. which was a solid pick)...

    I just felt like these 2 guys were very good value picks and were 2nd round talent but fell because of some off-field issues.... Turns out, after their first year, they're pretty solid starters and should be around in the NFL for a long time.

    All I'm saying is ...I wish we would have invested lots of our 9 or 10 picks last year on the aging O-line, but Herm and Queen Carl f'ed us up by waiting till the 12th round to look at Brian Waters' replacement...

  4. #33
    Member Since
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Denver
    Posts
    414
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Default


    0 Not allowed!
    i couldnt disagree more than about Brandon Carr...talk about value. Say what you want about Herm, but he drafted some great corners last year...I agree with you about Collins though, i would have much rather had him that Will Franklin...i think receivers like him are available all the time. But we needed more lineman...bad. that was one of the few draft choices i really didnt like last year (or Cottam)

    And theres no way that the Chiefs trade Waters....Pioli said himself "hes under contract, hes going to be a Chief...hes important to our team, etc....i was just busy finding the coaching staff.."...this was in an interview at the senior bowl or something a few weeks back...so waters is going nowhere...if anybody gets traded it will be tony probably... :(

  5. #34
    Member Since
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    436
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Default


    0 Not allowed!
    Quote Originally Posted by KansasCityChris View Post
    Can you give me any links or proof that he actually made these bashings in public? I would perfer direct quotes from Brian himself not the rumors that were posted on this board a few days back. KC Star makes a living of printing stories about rumors from a reliable source when they think that a player is either getting old or they just need a story so I would like to see the story that says he actually said it in a interview or similiar surroundings as I don't believe that Brian would be that unprofessional as to publically bash the KC Chiefs staff simply because he doesn't like the people Clark Hunt brought in to run the show.
    I agree I want to see some direct quotes but if so so be it send him on his way to Buffalo maybe him and TO can whine together.

  6. #35
    Member Since
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Sexy Ville
    Posts
    1,383
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Default


    0 Not allowed!
    Quote Originally Posted by Big Daddy Tek View Post
    We already have too many holes to fill on the O-line. Trading Waters just adds another one. This wouldnt make sense.
    Yep

    Quote Originally Posted by Pro_Angler View Post
    I agree losing waters would hurt us even more. restructure his contract for 3 more years and pay him.
    yep

    Quote Originally Posted by Coach View Post
    I would rather keep him. But if he is going to be dealt, it had better be for at least a 2nd rd pick so we can replace him with the pick. A 3rd and something is not enough IMO.
    me too

    Quote Originally Posted by DT14PRIEST View Post
    It pains me to say this but Chiefs aren't going to be a contender next year or in 2010 so if the Bills are willing to trade us a 2nd or some variance of multiple picks I say take it there are moves still to be made in Free Agency that can sure up the line and we can adress line throughout the draft as well.
    oh yes they will! u have to believe. ever heard of the 2007 to 2008 Dolphins?

    Quote Originally Posted by SDChief09 View Post
    KC Star is a bad source, but Whitlock was the one saying these things...As far as ANY story covering it, even Bob Gretz, Brian was told by Cardinals that Haley was Arrogant, he ran with this after being "blown off" while KC was trying to deal for Cassel...

    I understand standing up for him

    but the point is

    hes not happy
    hes a 32 year old guard that has good value to a team that needs players.

    The fact Whitlock continues to bring up Waters in an article about Cassel is proof....hes a soldier remember.
    Thats right. hey, i know a team that needs value players! The Kansas City Chiefs would be a great fit.

    oh wait, we already have him.

    Quote Originally Posted by kcmostwanted View Post

    I know he's getting old but he still has about 2-4 good years left in him...I think he's more important to the O-line the next 2 years than most people think...

    Our line would be miserable the next 2-4 years if we filled our O-line w/ low round draft picks...

    ...
    Yep.

  7. #36
    Member Since
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    548
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Default


    0 Not allowed!
    Quote Originally Posted by Sn@keIze View Post
    oh yes they will! u have to believe. ever heard of the 2007 to 2008 Dolphins?
    I said 'contender' as in Superbowl. Making the playoffs either by winning the AFC West or a wild card berth would be a monumental step in the right direction and really sell the Chiefs to the rest of the league as an up and coming contender with Pioli/Haley at the helm but aside from that its just a flash in the pan (like the Dolphins were last season).

    The fastest timetable in which I could feasibly see the Chiefs becoming a legitimate superbowl threat would be the 2010 season at the earliest.

    Unless Pioli strikes gold with every pick in the draft and FA signing and all are considered selfless Chiefs loving pro bowl caliber players I can't say in all good faith that the Chiefs make the Superbowl in 09. I'll support the Chiefs till my dying day but I can't let my irrational addiction to everything Chiefs swamp my common sense...At least not during the off season

  8. #37
    Member Since
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Kansas City
    Posts
    2,870
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 104
    Given: 3

    Default


    0 Not allowed!
    Brian Waters has done nothing noteable since Willie Roaf Retired. Without Willie Roaf, Waters was nothing but an average LG. He is still making the pro-bowl because it is a popularity contest.

    Take off your homer glasses folks and look at this team from they eyes of Piolo and Haley. They are evaluating him based on his play last year. Not what he did years ago where many of you built your loyalty towards him.

    If you can get a 3rd or 5th for him. Send his arse packing... If he wants to shut up, stay and play. Fine...

  9. #38
    Member Since
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Sexy Ville
    Posts
    1,383
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Default


    0 Not allowed!
    Quote Originally Posted by Seek View Post
    Brian Waters has done nothing noteable since Willie Roaf Retired. Without Willie Roaf, Waters was nothing but an average LG. He is still making the pro-bowl because it is a popularity contest.

    Take off your homer glasses folks and look at this team from they eyes of Piolo and Haley. They are evaluating him based on his play last year. Not what he did years ago where many of you built your loyalty towards him.

    If you can get a 3rd or 5th for him. Send his arse packing... If he wants to shut up, stay and play. Fine...
    No way. Waters is the last remnant of the best line in the NFL. Now hes the veteran and proven player the rest of the O line needs.

    Hes still got what it takes. Why, if he didnt, why would teams be willing to give up picks for him? A 3rd round pick (alone) is pretty special.

  10. #39
    Member Since
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Read the name dumbass!!
    Posts
    13,330
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 23
    Given: 26

    Default


    0 Not allowed!
    Quote Originally Posted by DT14PRIEST View Post
    I said 'contender' as in Superbowl.
    The Cards were 9-7 last year. I dont know how people can saw we will not contend yet we have not even seen who is gonna be playing in September. Call me a homer if u must but 9-7 does not seem like a real strech to me!!
    The only reason a beer sweats around Canada is because he's decided it will be the next beer he drinks.

  11. #40
    Member Since
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    548
    Thumbs Up
    Received: 0
    Given: 0

    Default


    0 Not allowed!
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada View Post
    The Cards were 9-7 last year. I dont know how people can saw we will not contend yet we have not even seen who is gonna be playing in September. Call me a homer if u must but 9-7 does not seem like a real strech to me!!
    9-7 isn't a stretch its what I expect from the Chiefs in 2009 but I don't think it'll win the divison. But with Denver collapsing from within, JMarc still at the helm in Oakland, and Norv Turner still shooting blanks in should win games it could happen the Chiefs take the division.

    That being said...

    9-7 might might merit a playoff berth if they were to not win the divison but then again it might not especially in the AFC. Just going by last years playoff teams look at New England, 11-5 and left in the dust because the Colts went 12-4 and scooped up the wild card berth since the Titans rocked the divison.

    8-8, 9-7 gets you in the playoffs when your divison is in the process of rebuilding/just plaing bad but I don't think it'll be a consistent formula for success. Besides Chiefs got a pretty beastly schedule this year. I'll consider .500 or better a giant leap forward for the Cheifs in building a dynasty.

    We'll see...Off season just began, so my assumptions as of right now are all premature and speculative at this point, so don't jot anything down as official.

Page 4 of 5 FirstFirst 12345 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. If anyone's interested....
    By luv in forum The Locker Room
    Replies: 70
    Last Post: 09-27-2007, 07:15 PM
  2. Bills' Kevin Everett Has May Be Paralyzed
    By Sweets in forum The Locker Room
    Replies: 24
    Last Post: 09-13-2007, 02:43 PM
  3. Bills' Kevin Everett Has Voluntary Movement
    By Sweets in forum The Locker Room
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 09-12-2007, 09:58 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •