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    Well, we have the offensive and defensive coordinator of a 9-7 team. I guess that leaves the difference in the rosters. Do we have a better roster than Arizona had last year? If its worse, are we worse, or will we be different? Maybe Chan Gailey is the exception. Whats your opinion?


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    Quote Originally Posted by chief31 View Post
    I am extremely worried about it.

    The Cards were 9-7 in the only division that was actually worse than the AFC West was this season.

    Prior to that, they were 5-11 in each of the previous two seasons.

    The Cards' defense was horrible, until the last four games. Where they weren't amazing. But they were pretty good.

    They haven't had a running game in one and a half eternities.

    Many people will see nothing but the Super Bowl Arizona Cardinals. But that is a very thin (Four games) layer of perfume, on a very fat (19-29) pig.

    Of course, there are plenty of holes that can be pointed out. Like these guys weren't even there for all of that pig portion.

    Or that these guys did get the piss-poor Cardinals to the playoffs, then to The Super Bowl.

    But I don't think that The Cardinals got much better. Just that the rest of that division got far worse.

    Having said all of that, I don't hold the new staff responsible for the recent history of The Cardinals. But I don't really see a way to hold them too responsible for getting The Cards to The Super Bowl, either.

    Hopefully, they will find success here. Rather that be through the type of changes that I would like to see made, or through running things in the opposite direction.

    I've been through three straight seasons of poor football and have to grant at least one more to an all-new staff.

    So, hopefully, these guys will be able to create a winner form what has been leftover from the previous staff.

    Some how.

    Some way.

    Just give me something to really cheer about again.

    Please.
    I very rarely disagree with you, but, you know, the Cards didn't exactly get blown out in the Super Bowl. The winning touchdown catch to win the game couldn't have been much better defended. One inch and Holmes would have been out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chief31 View Post
    I am extremely worried about it.

    The Cards were 9-7 in the only division that was actually worse than the AFC West was this season.

    Prior to that, they were 5-11 in each of the previous two seasons.

    The Cards' defense was horrible, until the last four games. Where they weren't amazing. But they were pretty good.

    They haven't had a running game in one and a half eternities.

    Many people will see nothing but the Super Bowl Arizona Cardinals. But that is a very thin (Four games) layer of perfume, on a very fat (19-29) pig.

    Of course, there are plenty of holes that can be pointed out. Like these guys weren't even there for all of that pig portion.

    Or that these guys did get the piss-poor Cardinals to the playoffs, then to The Super Bowl.

    But I don't think that The Cardinals got much better. Just that the rest of that division got far worse.

    Having said all of that, I don't hold the new staff responsible for the recent history of The Cardinals. But I don't really see a way to hold them too responsible for getting The Cards to The Super Bowl, either.

    Hopefully, they will find success here. Rather that be through the type of changes that I would like to see made, or through running things in the opposite direction.

    I've been through three straight seasons of poor football and have to grant at least one more to an all-new staff.

    So, hopefully, these guys will be able to create a winner form what has been leftover from the previous staff.

    Some how.

    Some way.

    Just give me something to really cheer about again.

    Please.
    I guess beating those terrible teams in the playoffs was just luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunker Hillbilly View Post
    I guess beating those terrible teams in the playoffs was just luck!
    Quote Originally Posted by prough91 View Post
    I very rarely disagree with you, but, you know, the Cards didn't exactly get blown out in the Super Bowl. The winning touchdown catch to win the game couldn't have been much better defended. One inch and Holmes would have been out.
    Whoa fellas. Chief31 isn't ripping your new favorite DC. He's just pointing to facts. I've lived in Phoenix since before Pendergast came here. Simply stated, the Cards played 4 incredible games to end the season. Previous to that was the regular season where in Week 15 after the Cards were thumped at home by the Vikings 14-35 the fans and local sports talk radio were calling for Clancy's head. We're all hoping that Clancy can carry the magic of the playoffs into KC. His entire body of work while in Arizona does make one suspicious until proven successful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 127markaz View Post
    Whoa fellas. Chief31 isn't ripping your new favorite DC. He's just pointing to facts. I've lived in Phoenix since before Pendergast came here. Simply stated, the Cards played 4 incredible games to end the season. Previous to that was the regular season where in Week 15 after the Cards were thumped at home by the Vikings 14-35 the fans and local sports talk radio were calling for Clancy's head. We're all hoping that Clancy can carry the magic of the playoffs into KC. His entire body of work while in Arizona does make one suspicious until proven successful.
    Here are some defensive stats from NFL.com:

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    All NFL AFC NFC Category... Passing Rushing Receiving Kicking Field Goals Kick Returns Punting Sacks Scoring Touchdowns Tackles Interceptions Total Yards if ("INTERCEPTIONS" != "") { $('statisticCategory').value = "INTERCEPTIONS"; } else { $('statisticCategory').value = "null"; } Season... 2008 2007 2006 2005 2004 2003 2002 2001 2000 1999 1998 1997 1996 1995 1994 1993 1992 1991 1990 1989 1988 1987 1986 1985 1984 1983 1982 1981 1980 1979 1978 1977 1976 1975 1974 1973 1972 1971 1970 1969 1968 1967 1966 1965 1964 1963 1962 1961 1960 1959 1958 1957 1956 1955 1954 1953 1952 1951 1950 1949 1948 1947 1946 1945 1944 1943 1942 1941 1940 1939 1938 1937 1936 1935 1934 1933 1932 Season Type... Preseason Regular Season Postseason $('conference').value = "null" != "" ? "null" : "null"; $('season').value = "2008" != "" ? "2008" : "null"; function limitExpPriorTo1991() { var season = $('season').value; if (season != "null") { if (season < 1991) { $('experience').value = "null"; $('experience').disabled = true; } else { $('experience').disabled = false; } $('archive').value = (season < 2008); } } All Rookie 2nd year 3rd year 4th year 5th year 6th year 7th year 8th year 9th year 10th year 11th year 12th year 13th year 14th year 15th year 16th year 17th year 18th year 19th year 20th year 21st year 22nd year 23rd year 24th year 25th year 28th year 29th year 30th year 31st year 32nd year 38th year limitExpPriorTo1991();

    InterceptionsTacklesInterceptionsFumblesRkPlayerTeamPosTotalSoloAstSckSFTYPDefIntTDsYdsLngFFRecTD1Ralph Brown ARI DB 4 4 0 0.0 -- 4 2 0 3 3 0 -- -- 1Ed Reed BAL FS 7 6 1 0.0 0 5 2 1 76 64T 0 -- -- 1Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie ARI CB 20 19 1 0.0 -- 11 2 0 19 19 0 -- -- 1Asante Samuel PHI CB 8 8 0 0.0 0 4 2 1 69 44T 0 -- -- 5Jon Beason CAR MLB 8 6 2 0.0 -- 2 1 0 4 4 0 -- -- 5Antoine Bethea IND FS 5 3 2 0.0 -- 2 1 0 36 36 0 -- -- 5Tyrone Carter PIT SS 5 5 0 0.0 -- 3 1 0 5 5 0 -- -- 5Karlos Dansby ARI OLB 31 24 7 0.0 -- 4 1 0 -1 -1 0 -- -- 5Kevin Dockery NYG CB 4 3 1 0.0 -- 2 1 0 0 0 0 -- -- 5Larry Foote PIT ILB 8 7 1 0.0 -- 2 1 0 0 0 0 -- -- 5Aaron Francisco ARI DB 9 9 0 0.0 -- 3 1 0 27 27 0 -- -- 5Cedric Griffin MIN CB 6 5 1 0.0 -- 2 1 0 0 0 0 -- -- 5James Harrison PIT OLB 14 10 4 1.0 0 2 1 1 100 100T 0 -- -- 5Gerald Hayes ARI MLB 19 14 5 0.0 -- 2 1 0 6 6 0 -- -- 5Roderick Hood ARI CB 17 15 2 0.0 -- 5 1 0 0 0 0 -- -- 5Chevis Jackson ATL CB 2 2 0 0.0 -- 2 1 0 0 0 0 -- -- 5Jim Leonhard BAL SS 16 14 2 0.5 -- 2 1 0 20 20 1 2 0 5Quintin Mikell PHI SS 17 15 2 0.0 -- 4 1 0 5 5 0 -- -- 5Troy Polamalu PIT SS 9 5 4 0.0 0 4 1 1 40 40T 0 -- -- 5Fred Robbins NYG DT 0 0 0 0.0 -- 2 1 0 17 17 0 -- -- 5Antrel Rolle ARI FS 16 12 4 0.0 0 2 1 0 47 47 0 1 1 5Samari Rolle BAL CB 6 4 2 0.0 -- 3 1 0 3 3 0 -- -- 5Deshea Townsend PIT CB 4 3 1 0.0 -- 2 1 0 2 2 0 -- -- 5Fabian Washington BAL CB 15 13 2 0.0 -- 4 1 0 12 12 0 1 0
    Quite a few Az guys on this list. All I am saying is that the Cards dominated in statistics on the offensive side of the ball on avg against their opponents. I have no doubt the defense will be better in KC this coming season than it was last season. As most of you know, I am the ultimate pesamist but I think the changes that have been made are a definite upgrade to this team. Would I have done a few things different? Maybe but this team is better today than it was at the end of last season no doubt!!! Will their record indicate that? I believe it will. By no means am I predicting the playoffs however i am predicting more than 2 wins and to me, that is a successfull offseason. //
    Last edited by chief31; 03-16-2009 at 10:24 PM.

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    Sorry, I don't know how to post this vertically so it is easier to read.

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    Way too early to speculate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunker Hillbilly View Post
    Here are some defensive stats from NFL.com:

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    All NFL AFC NFC Category... Passing Rushing Receiving Kicking Field Goals Kick Returns Punting Sacks Scoring Touchdowns Tackles Interceptions Total Yards if ("INTERCEPTIONS" != "") { $('statisticCategory').value = "INTERCEPTIONS"; } else { $('statisticCategory').value = "null"; } Season... 2008 2007 2006 2005 2004 2003 2002 2001 2000 1999 1998 1997 1996 1995 1994 1993 1992 1991 1990 1989 1988 1987 1986 1985 1984 1983 1982 1981 1980 1979 1978 1977 1976 1975 1974 1973 1972 1971 1970 1969 1968 1967 1966 1965 1964 1963 1962 1961 1960 1959 1958 1957 1956 1955 1954 1953 1952 1951 1950 1949 1948 1947 1946 1945 1944 1943 1942 1941 1940 1939 1938 1937 1936 1935 1934 1933 1932 Season Type... Preseason Regular Season Postseason $('conference').value = "null" != "" ? "null" : "null"; $('season').value = "2008" != "" ? "2008" : "null"; function limitExpPriorTo1991() { var season = $('season').value; if (season != "null") { if (season < 1991) { $('experience').value = "null"; $('experience').disabled = true; } else { $('experience').disabled = false; } $('archive').value = (season < 2008); } } All Rookie 2nd year 3rd year 4th year 5th year 6th year 7th year 8th year 9th year 10th year 11th year 12th year 13th year 14th year 15th year 16th year 17th year 18th year 19th year 20th year 21st year 22nd year 23rd year 24th year 25th year 28th year 29th year 30th year 31st year 32nd year 38th year limitExpPriorTo1991();

    InterceptionsTacklesInterceptionsFumblesRkPlayerTeamPosTotalSoloAstSckSFTYPDefIntTDsYdsLngFFRecTD1Ralph Brown ARI DB 4 4 0 0.0 -- 4 2 0 3 3 0 -- -- 1Ed Reed BAL FS 7 6 1 0.0 0 5 2 1 76 64T 0 -- -- 1Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie ARI CB 20 19 1 0.0 -- 11 2 0 19 19 0 -- -- 1Asante Samuel PHI CB 8 8 0 0.0 0 4 2 1 69 44T 0 -- -- 5Jon Beason CAR MLB 8 6 2 0.0 -- 2 1 0 4 4 0 -- -- 5Antoine Bethea IND FS 5 3 2 0.0 -- 2 1 0 36 36 0 -- -- 5Tyrone Carter PIT SS 5 5 0 0.0 -- 3 1 0 5 5 0 -- -- 5Karlos Dansby ARI OLB 31 24 7 0.0 -- 4 1 0 -1 -1 0 -- -- 5Kevin Dockery NYG CB 4 3 1 0.0 -- 2 1 0 0 0 0 -- -- 5Larry Foote PIT ILB 8 7 1 0.0 -- 2 1 0 0 0 0 -- -- 5Aaron Francisco ARI DB 9 9 0 0.0 -- 3 1 0 27 27 0 -- -- 5Cedric Griffin MIN CB 6 5 1 0.0 -- 2 1 0 0 0 0 -- -- 5James Harrison PIT OLB 14 10 4 1.0 0 2 1 1 100 100T 0 -- -- 5Gerald Hayes ARI MLB 19 14 5 0.0 -- 2 1 0 6 6 0 -- -- 5Roderick Hood ARI CB 17 15 2 0.0 -- 5 1 0 0 0 0 -- -- 5Chevis Jackson ATL CB 2 2 0 0.0 -- 2 1 0 0 0 0 -- -- 5Jim Leonhard BAL SS 16 14 2 0.5 -- 2 1 0 20 20 1 2 0 5Quintin Mikell PHI SS 17 15 2 0.0 -- 4 1 0 5 5 0 -- -- 5Troy Polamalu PIT SS 9 5 4 0.0 0 4 1 1 40 40T 0 -- -- 5Fred Robbins NYG DT 0 0 0 0.0 -- 2 1 0 17 17 0 -- -- 5Antrel Rolle ARI FS 16 12 4 0.0 0 2 1 0 47 47 0 1 1 5Samari Rolle BAL CB 6 4 2 0.0 -- 3 1 0 3 3 0 -- -- 5Deshea Townsend PIT CB 4 3 1 0.0 -- 2 1 0 2 2 0 -- -- 5Fabian Washington BAL CB 15 13 2 0.0 -- 4 1 0 12 12 0 1 0
    Quite a few Az guys on this list. All I am saying is that the Cards dominated in statistics on the offensive side of the ball on avg against their opponents. I have no doubt the defense will be better in KC this coming season than it was last season. As most of you know, I am the ultimate pesamist but I think the changes that have been made are a definite upgrade to this team. Would I have done a few things different? Maybe but this team is better today than it was at the end of last season no doubt!!! Will their record indicate that? I believe it will. By no means am I predicting the playoffs however i am predicting more than 2 wins and to me, that is a successfull offseason. //


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    ????????

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    wow my brain hurts now Drunker Hillbilly. :punchy:

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    That would be very tough to fix DH. I was gonna. But it looks like alot of work.

    Quote Originally Posted by prough91 View Post
    I very rarely disagree with you, but, you know, the Cards didn't exactly get blown out in the Super Bowl. The winning touchdown catch to win the game couldn't have been much better defended. One inch and Holmes would have been out.
    Even if they had won that game, it is still just four good games.

    Hell, even The Raiders have played four good games. Just not at the right time.

    We played four good games.



    Quote Originally Posted by Drunker Hillbilly View Post
    I guess beating those terrible teams in the playoffs was just luck!
    Maybe. It was only three games.

    You, as well as anyone, know that that team is stacked with talent, and has still sucked until last seasons playoffs.

    High powered passing attack. Non-existent running game, and lack-luster defense.

    That's essentially the same team that has sucked for the past five years or so.

    There were two real differences. The rest of the division became even worse than them. And they played a few good games in the post-season.

    Had it not been for the division being so bad, they probably never even play those post-season games.

    I am hopeful. Extremely hopeful.

    But I am finding it difficult to get really pumped up about emulating The Arizona Cardinals.

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