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    Default hey guys falcons fan here!!

    first congrats for getting cassel and vrabel for just a second round pick scot pioli really did screw up his former team..and i just wanna say great draft last year..i was jelous of all ur pics last year and it looks like curry is the guy u all will be picking this year..anyways..alotta falcon fans are talkin about trading for Dorsey....so i came here to see what u guys thought of that...and is he on the trading block?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLYINFALCONSGA View Post
    first congrats for getting cassel and vrabel for just a second round pick scot pioli really did screw up his former team..and i just wanna say great draft last year..i was jelous of all ur pics last year and it looks like curry is the guy u all will be picking this year..anyways..alotta falcon fans are talkin about trading for Dorsey....so i came here to see what u guys thought of that...and is he on the trading block?
    I don't think so. I'm pretty sure Dorsey is staying.

    to the Crowd BTW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLYINFALCONSGA View Post
    first congrats for getting cassel and vrabel for just a second round pick scot pioli really did screw up his former team..and i just wanna say great draft last year..i was jelous of all ur pics last year and it looks like curry is the guy u all will be picking this year..anyways..alotta falcon fans are talkin about trading for Dorsey....so i came here to see what u guys thought of that...and is he on the trading block?
    Well welcome to our humble abode FlyinFalcons. As far as i have heard Dorsey is gonna be staying with the Chiefs, but who really knows right? The only trade rumor I have heard involving the Chiefs and Falcons are about Gonzales....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanilla Garilla View Post
    Well welcome to our humble abode FlyinFalcons. As far as i have heard Dorsey is gonna be staying with the Chiefs, but who really knows right? The only trade rumor I have heard involving the Chiefs and Falcons are about Gonzales....
    1. To cut or trade Dorsey would equal $20M in dead cap space.

    2. We aren't cutting/trading Dorsey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmlamerson View Post
    1. To cut or trade Dorsey would equal $20M in dead cap space.

    2. We aren't cutting/trading Dorsey.
    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan View Post
    Agreed.
    i thought they only take the cap if he's cut, but when he's traded his salary goes with him so the cap hit transfers to the new team with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefnut View Post
    i thought they only take the cap if he's cut, but when he's traded his salary goes with him so the cap hit transfers to the new team with him.
    Salary and salary cap number are two different things.

    A person's salary is their yearly salary.

    A person's salary cap number is (1) a prorated portion of the player's signing bonus; and (2) their yearly salary.

    If a player is cut/traded, the team that signed him to the signing bonus must count the entire remaining prorated portion of the singing bonus against their cap for that year, if they cut/trade him before June 1. It will be split for the next two years if you cut/trade him after June 1.

    Assume you sign Player A to a 5 year contract, at $5M a year, with a $10M signing bonus in 2008. Assume no escalators, incentives, or any of that stuff. In 2008, that player counts for $7M against your cap. You trade Player A in 2009 before June 1. Although you don't have to pay the player any more salary, you must count the prorated bonus against your cap. Player A will count for $8M against your cap in 2009. If you cut/trade him after June 1, Player A counts $4M against your 2009 cap and $4M against your 2010 cap.

    This is commonly referred to as dead cap space. You do not have to pay the salary of the person cut/traded, but he will count against your cap. The NFL does this so that teams can't sign people to huge signing bonuses and cut them the next year to avoid cap implications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmlamerson View Post
    1. To cut or trade Dorsey would equal $20M in dead cap space.

    2. We aren't cutting/trading Dorsey.
    Even if it were more possible I don't think Atl has the right draft picks available, later in the round picks are meh.

    Thanks Aussie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Tyler View Post
    Even if it were more possible I don't think Atl has the right draft picks available, later in the round picks are meh.
    It doesn't matter what people offer, unless they offer something ridiculous. Dorsey will be a Chief in 2009 and 2010 at least for cap reasons.

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    Are the Falcons interested in Tamba Hali? He is possibly the one player who may be on the trading block because he does not fit into a 3-4 defense.

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