The future of our proud offense.

[chief31]

Saunders is gone,Solari is in.O.K. with me.Our offense will be fine this year with almost any coordinator in the league.(barring injury)
That's because of the "W" crew.Will; Willie; Weigmann; Waters and Welbourn.While I do feel that T-Rich was a major contributer,the nucleous of our blocking team is in tact.(Dunn and Gonzales are also a big part of that but their names don't start with W.):)
When a receiver has time to run his route and make his moves,he will get open.And if a quarterback has time to wait for him and still has room to step into his throw,he will get the ball to him.And if a halfback has enough time and space to get a couple yards head start before having to deal with defenders,then he will gain alot of yardage.And when all of these things happen,an offensive coordinator will be able to call plays with less disruption.
If your team has the best quarteback, halfback, receivers, and coordinator,but they have a weak offensive line.Then you will end up looking at Ryan Leaf, Ron Dayne, David Boston and Ron Turner.Any of these guys would be All-Pro players(or a head coach)if they had a truly dominant blocking team.Ron Dayne will be a fine example of that this season when he gets more carries with Denver.(although their O-line is only dominant because they are willing to end a players carreer to get the job done.)
Let me point out that there have been some truly exceptional players in the league.Players who can find a way to succeed with below average blocking teams.Peyton Manning came into the league with a sub-par O-line.Micheal Irvin made hurried throws look "pinpoint".And surely we've all seen what Barry Sanders did with no fullback and a severly handicapped O-line.Brett Favre; Jim Brown; Gayle Sayers;Terrell Owens(love him or hate him),just to name a few.But average players become exceptional when they have the time and space they need to show their skills.
Herm worries me a great deal, as a Chiefs fan.I trust him fully as a defensive coach.What worries me are these two facts.(1)Chad Pennington has been chronically injured for a reason.He has been under intense pressure from pass rushers for his entire carreer.(2)The Chiefs did not draft a blocker until the sixth round.Knowing full well that his current blocking team may only be around this season.
I, as much as about anyone, love a greot defense.But I feel that Winston Justice was the best player available when we made our first selection in the draft.We have some young talented players at DE.Rather anyone knows it or not.And if you take a good long look around the league,you'll find that an elite tackle only comes around in the first round.(The exception here being Walter Jones.)Top ten pick to be accurate.
Winston Justice slipped down the draft board quite a way.Most draft experts had him going in the top fifteen. All of them had him in the first round.He slipped so far because of "charcter issues".But, honestly, when was the last time a tackle made alot of news for "character issues"?
Anyway,enough of my sour grapes over Winston.I have hope for Herm.I just have alot of worries about him.I am, after all, a Chiefs fan.Worry is always a factor.

[Guru]

I was within 100 of ya. The weekends kill me.

[Chiefster]

Guru wrote:
I was within 100 of ya. The weekends kill me.

Eh, it's only because you have a life! :-D

[Guru]

Chiefster wrote:

Guru wrote:
I was within 100 of ya. The weekends kill me.

Eh, it's only because you have a life! :-D

Well... if you consider having a life = siding my house. Then I guess I have a life. :pint:

[chief31]

I'd like to add to my earlier post, the positive impact that Coach Vermiel had upon this franchise.Vermiel is the only N.F.L. coach,to my knowlege, who understands, fully, the absolute value of great blocking.
Great blockers create hall of fame "skill" position players.
Example? Emmitt Smith.I'm not here to bash Emmitt(and there are plenty of other examples in the history of the game),but certainly those who watched those Cowboy teams could see the huge head starts he was awarded against most defenses.Now, Emmitt is the all-time leading rusher for the N.F.L.(I'll lend some credibility to his longevity as well)
Even Emmitt will tell you he owes that to guys like; Larry Allen; Nate Newton; Jay Novacek; Eric Williams and "Moose"Johnston.
When a coach realizes that value, he can turn players like; Marshall Faulk; Priest Holmes; Isaac Bruce; Kurt Warner; Trent Green and; Eddie Kennison into more than they would have ever been otherwise.
My point in this addition is to lend some defense for Coach Vermiel,who has been getting beat up a bit by some writers and fans lately.Not to say that none of the criticism is waranted. For, certainly his weakness was not a lack in defensive knowlege,but, his undying loyalty to his coahing staff. This is more to point out the positive.Dick Vermiel put the Kansas City Chiefs back on the map. And I already miss him.
(hopefully I won't be crying for him this season :-D )

[Chiefster]

chief31 wrote:
I'd like to add to my earlier post, the positive impact that Coach Vermiel had upon this franchise.Vermiel is the only N.F.L. coach,to my knowlege, who understands, fully, the absolute value of great blocking.
Great blockers create hall of fame "skill" position players.
Example? Emmitt Smith.I'm not here to bash Emmitt(and there are plenty of other examples in the history of the game),but certainly those who watched those Cowboy teams could see the huge head starts he was awarded against most defenses.Now, Emmitt is the all-time leading rusher for the N.F.L.(I'll lend some credibility to his longevity as well)
Even Emmitt will tell you he owes that to guys like; Larry Allen; Nate Newton; Jay Novacek; Eric Williams and "Moose"Johnston.
When a coach realizes that value, he can turn players like; Marshall Faulk; Priest Holmes; Isaac Bruce; Kurt Warner; Trent Green and; Eddie Kennison into more than they would have ever been otherwise.
My point in this addition is to lend some defense for Coach Vermiel,who has been getting beat up a bit by some writers and fans lately.Not to say that none of the criticism is waranted. For, certainly his weakness was not a lack in defensive knowlege,but, his undying loyalty to his coahing staff. This is more to point out the positive.Dick Vermiel put the Kansas City Chiefs back on the map. And I already miss him.
(hopefully I won't be crying for him this season :-D )

Agreed; any successful offense owes its success to the most part to it's "O" line. A poor offensive front = a poor offensive team. I've always said that Vermeil brought a great offense to Kansas City. My main criticism of the Chiefs has always been that they can't seem to be able to get both sides of the ball on the same high level - talent wise.

[Guru]

chief31 wrote:
I'd like to add to my earlier post, the positive impact that Coach Vermiel had upon this franchise.Vermiel is the only N.F.L. coach,to my knowlege, who understands, fully, the absolute value of great blocking.
Great blockers create hall of fame "skill" position players.
Example? Emmitt Smith.I'm not here to bash Emmitt(and there are plenty of other examples in the history of the game),but certainly those who watched those Cowboy teams could see the huge head starts he was awarded against most defenses.Now, Emmitt is the all-time leading rusher for the N.F.L.(I'll lend some credibility to his longevity as well)
Even Emmitt will tell you he owes that to guys like; Larry Allen; Nate Newton; Jay Novacek; Eric Williams and "Moose"Johnston.
When a coach realizes that value, he can turn players like; Marshall Faulk; Priest Holmes; Isaac Bruce; Kurt Warner; Trent Green and; Eddie Kennison into more than they would have ever been otherwise.
My point in this addition is to lend some defense for Coach Vermiel,who has been getting beat up a bit by some writers and fans lately.Not to say that none of the criticism is waranted. For, certainly his weakness was not a lack in defensive knowlege,but, his undying loyalty to his coahing staff. This is more to point out the positive.Dick Vermiel put the Kansas City Chiefs back on the map. And I already miss him.
(hopefully I won't be crying for him this season :-D )

I loved DV and what he did for our offense. If only he would have admitted to his mistake of hiring Robinson and actually acted interested in the D. He upset me in that respect but without him our O would never become the MONSTER it did.

That being said, if Herm can just find some balance on this team, we would be the cream of the crop indeed.

[Chiefster]

Guru wrote:

chief31 wrote:
I'd like to add to my earlier post, the positive impact that Coach Vermiel had upon this franchise.Vermiel is the only N.F.L. coach,to my knowlege, who understands, fully, the absolute value of great blocking.
Great blockers create hall of fame "skill" position players.
Example? Emmitt Smith.I'm not here to bash Emmitt(and there are plenty of other examples in the history of the game),but certainly those who watched those Cowboy teams could see the huge head starts he was awarded against most defenses.Now, Emmitt is the all-time leading rusher for the N.F.L.(I'll lend some credibility to his longevity as well)
Even Emmitt will tell you he owes that to guys like; Larry Allen; Nate Newton; Jay Novacek; Eric Williams and "Moose"Johnston.
When a coach realizes that value, he can turn players like; Marshall Faulk; Priest Holmes; Isaac Bruce; Kurt Warner; Trent Green and; Eddie Kennison into more than they would have ever been otherwise.
My point in this addition is to lend some defense for Coach Vermiel,who has been getting beat up a bit by some writers and fans lately.Not to say that none of the criticism is waranted. For, certainly his weakness was not a lack in defensive knowlege,but, his undying loyalty to his coahing staff. This is more to point out the positive.Dick Vermiel put the Kansas City Chiefs back on the map. And I already miss him.
(hopefully I won't be crying for him this season :-D )

I loved DV and what he did for our offense. If only he would have admitted to his mistake of hiring Robinson and actually acted interested in the D. He upset me in that respect but without him our O would never become the MONSTER it did.

That being said, if Herm can just find some balance on this team, we would be the cream of the crop indeed.

definitely; what I would like not to see is the return of Marty-ball.

[Guru]

Eh, I can live with Marty ball as long as we win the games.

[Chiefster]

Guru wrote:
Eh, I can live with Marty ball as long as we win the games.

It's the big game that I'm concerned with; the prevent defense in a close game that prevents you from winning or the playing not to lose. These game philosophies don't carry a team through the playoffs. 1993 was the only time I saw Marty-ball make it all the way to the AFC West Championship.

[Guru]

Chiefster wrote:

Guru wrote:
Eh, I can live with Marty ball as long as we win the games.

It's the big game that I'm concerned with; the prevent defense in a close game that prevents you from winning or the playing not to lose. These game philosophies don't carry a team through the playoffs. 1993 was the only time I saw Marty-ball make it all the way to the AFC West Championship.

Well... All I can say is.... This is Herm-ball. He has always had a little more offense than Marty did when you think about it.