Ingle Martin cut, Matt Gutierrez signed from Patriots

**Big Daddy Tek** · 08-05-2009, 09:46 PM

Bob Gretz reported last night that Ingle Martin was cut. Many believed that he was cut in order to make room for Tyson Jackson (wishful thinking.) Scout.com has just reported that the cut was to make room for Matt Gutierrez, the backup QB from New England. Martin was our #4 QB so what does that make Matt Gutierrez now? You know Pioli must like him and knows alot about him. My guess is that Brodie is out of here. After all, we still have Tyson to sign and probably 2 more free agents before we hit the magic salary number, so There will be more cuts.

**isht_starter** · 08-06-2009, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by KansasCityChris

I don't recall Croyle ever standing in the pocket knowing he will take a hit and delivering the ball to help us win a game, instead I remember him taking a hit , dropping the ball the other team recovering and him being carted off the field with a season ending injury. That is all I need to say.

Of course, just ignore both plays that knocked him out last year, especially the pass he made against Tennessee. He was obviously ridden with fear.

**Big Daddy Tek** · 08-07-2009, 12:35 AM

Originally Posted by jmlamerson

I can't believe I never learned that before! Thanks for the heads up.

I now agree entirely that Thigpen shjould not be practice squad, and that it's a better place for Gutierrez.

As far as I know, you have to cut a player and send him to the waiver wire before you can send him to the practice squad. If he clears waivers (none picks him up) than you can send him to the prtactice squad.

Last offseason, as soon as the Vikings dropped Thigpen we signed him before he was able to clear the wire for the Vikings. The Vikings were all set to make him the practice squad QB and we stole him.

The only thing that Im not sure about, is the deadlines. I think the rules are different after a certain point in the season when you can just promote and demote off of the practice squad.

**bigpoppachief** · 08-07-2009, 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by KansasCityChris

I don't recall Croyle ever standing in the pocket knowing he will take a hit and delivering the ball to help us win a game, instead I remember him taking a hit , dropping the ball the other team recovering and him being carted off the field with a season ending injury. That is all I need to say.

LOL I love it. That gutirrez name rings a bell for some reason just dont know why.....

**isht_starter** · 08-07-2009, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by KansasCityChris

I understand you like the guy and thats allgood but, I can't ignore the fact he has yet to win a game as the Chiefs starting QB. That is the main reason I would rather he go down the road rather than Thigpen. Brodie can turn on the juice when he is practicing and make everyone believe he is The Man when he isn't being hit but as soon as it becomes the real thing his abilities deminish and the real Brodie Croyle steps out for us to see. I think we can agree to disagree in this matter wouldn't you say?

Where did you read that I like the guy and what exactly are we agreeing to disagree on?

The point I made was that it's completely ridiculous to label him, or any player for that matter, "scared" when the guy has sustained several serious injuries only to return. There are several players that would have called it quits far sooner, but the kid has had the balls to battle back several times. For a player to not have been blessed with the physical prowess to absorb the punishment of the NFL, but is still willing to repeatedly throw himself out there takes guts, not fear.

**AussieChiefsFan** · 08-07-2009, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by Big Daddy Tek

Bob Gretz reported last night that Ingle Martin was cut. Many believed that he was cut in order to make room for Tyson Jackson (wishful thinking.) Scout.com has just reported that the cut was to make room for Matt Gutierrez, the backup QB from New England. Martin was our #4 QB so what does that make Matt Gutierrez now? You know Pioli must like him and knows alot about him. My guess is that Brodie is out of here. After all, we still have Tyson to sign and probably 2 more free agents before we hit the magic salary number, so There will be more cuts.

Matt Gutierrez is jersey #0