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    Chiefs camp buzz: Haley not talking about Cassel’s play - Kansas City Star

    Matt Cassel’s play has slipped since the early portion of training camp, and Tuesday’s practice wasn’t his best. He missed some throws, including one when he had Quinten Lawrence open deep. The ball was slightly underthrown and intercepted by Brandon Flowers.

    Cassel’s struggles began during an intrasquad scrimmage two weeks ago when he committed three turnovers. He has had a problem with turnovers since and lost a fumble during last week’s preseason opener against Houston.

    Asked whether Cassel has been the best quarterback in camp, coach Todd Haley deferred.

    “I think I’ll hold out on answering that right now,” he said.
    Kind of sickening in a way. I didn't expect to see any question that Cassel was the best QB on the team after giving him the monster contract. Hopefully things get better in the next few weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by honda522 View Post
    You got that, but Cassel has proven more than anyone before training camp started.
    I disagree. I know it's been said before, but it bears repeating. Thigpen put up numbers that were just as good as Cassel's and he did so with a lot less talent around him. I think the QB position should be up for grabs. If Thigpen or Croyle outplay Cassel than they deserve to be given the opportunity for the starting job.

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    Everyone needs to read Q&A with Haley 8/19. A lot of you as well as the press are taken what Haley said yesterday out of context. All he meant is that like every position, the QB position is an open competition and it wouldn't be fair to anyone to say who is doing better at this time. I would be surprised if Cassel isn't working with Bowe, Toomer and Engrim this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainamerica View Post
    I disagree. I know it's been said before, but it bears repeating. Thigpen put up numbers that were just as good as Cassel's and he did so with a lot less talent around him. I think the QB position should be up for grabs. If Thigpen or Croyle outplay Cassel than they deserve to be given the opportunity for the starting job.
    He also ran a gimmick offense geared especially for him, threw to the greatest Tight End of all time, and had a big target at WR in Dwayne Bowe.

    Thigpen is an intriguing player with a very unique play style but, like I've said in a previous thread, if the Chiefs wanted a QB like Thigpen to run an offense then they should've gone for Vick who does everything Thig. does on the field only much better.

    I like Thigpen as an athlete, don't get me wrong, but I don't want him playing QB for any sort of longevity. He's a trick player. A gadget guy at best.
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    3 weeks ago, I said that when Brodie entered the competition he would take over. I said almost verbatim that Thigpen would stand no chance against him and it doesn't surprise me one bit that he is giving Cassell a hard time. Brodie is awsome. He is a pure bread QB with a cannon. Like JM said: "Brodie would be a HOF QB if this was flag football." I love that Quote J. Anyway, It's not flag football and unfortunatly if Brodie starts, the backup will be in soon after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by honda522 View Post
    Cassels balls were thrown perfectly. We just have some awful WR.

    Jesus, why is everyone putting so much pressure on Cassel in camp? Do you think Brady, Manning, Brees, or some other high end QB looks like the best in camp?
    Umm yeah, I would expect anyone of that calibre and playing experience to be pretty solid in camp


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hayvern View Post
    Umm yeah, I would expect anyone of that calibre and playing experience to be pretty solid in camp
    What experience other than last year did he have?
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    Yea Cassels passes looked good in the game 9when they let him pass) the other qb's was given many more pass plays then cassell was. I love Brodie and always will but the bone head (throw the ball away) play cost us a win.

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    its preseason shouldn't worry until we play baltimore our first game of the season and then we'll see how Cassel and our offense performs against a very good D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro_Angler View Post
    Yea Cassels passes looked good in the game 9when they let him pass) the other qb's was given many more pass plays then cassell was. I love Brodie and always will but the bone head (throw the ball away) play cost us a win.
    I was wondering if Herm Edwards might have been hired to do the offensive playcalling when Cassel was in there. He wasn't given a chance to show a whole lot.

    I'm not sold on Cassel but he certainly deserves a lot more of a shot than one preseason game before people start acting like he is a bust.

    I'd also like to mention that Brodie hurt himself when he made that stupid intentional grounding play. Surely in his fourth year now he has learned the rules. Mental mistakes like that at the QB position probably burn Haley's butt more than anything.

    As far as Thigpen gos, I like his mobility and moxie but he can't seem to do anything within the structure of the offense. Almost every good play he makes is improvised. He would be a good 2nd or third string guy but until he can prove that he can work within the offensive scheme will probably not be much else.
    Last edited by rcgamer; 08-20-2009 at 05:50 AM.

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    this is so stupid. i'm starting to not like haley's approach. he's a first time coach, hope he learned something good from arizona's coach.

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