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    Default QB battle unsettled, duh!

    KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Those few Kansas City fans who booed Trent Green in the first quarter Thursday were probably ready to beg him to come back in the fourth.
    Green looked sharp in his first appearance in Arrowhead Stadium since insisting on a trade to Miami during the offseason. The Chiefs, on the other hand, mostly looked lifeless for the second straight week while trying to find a new quarterback and limp along without holdout running back Larry Johnson.

    In the final minutes, Patrick Cobbs scored a touchdown and John Beck slipped into the end zone for the 2-point conversion that led the Dolphins to an 11-10 victory and made them 2-0 in the preseason for the first time since 1982.
    So did it seem weird, Green was asked, playing for a Chiefs opponent in the stadium where he starred for six years?
    "The whole thing," he said. "From traveling into the stadium, to going off to pregame warmups, to the game, looking across the sideline and seeing a lot of guys I spent a lot of time with the last six years. It was definitely different."
    Green, whose 87.3 passer rating is the best in Chiefs history, played the first two series and was 4-for-7 for 41 yards. He led one smart drive that failed when Jared Allen stopped Jesse Chatman for a 1-yard loss on fourth-and-goal from the 3.
    Beck, the third Miami quarterback to appear in the sloppily played game, hit Kerry Reed for 17 yards and Courtney Anderson for 25 in a seven-play, 73-yard scoring drive and appeared to be stopped short on his 2-point conversion. The Chiefs (0-2) challenged the call but it was upheld.
    The Chiefs have scored only one offensive touchdown in two games without Johnson, their All-Pro running back who is holding out demanding more money. Injuries to the offensive line aren't doing much good for a rushing game that netted only 61 yards.
    "The problem is we weren't physical enough," said Brian Waters, the Pro Bowl left guard. "For whatever reason, we're not knocking guys off the ball. That's something we've got to do."
    The way the line is playing, Waters said, it wouldn't make much difference if Johnson were back or not.
    "I don't care who you have back there. There's only two guys I've ever seen do it with a bad offensive line -- Barry Sanders and Jim Brown, and nobody in this league can compare to those two guys," Waters said. "Good running backs in this league have good offensive lines. We've got to do a better job no matter who's back there."
    Brodie Croyle, bidding to take Green's old job, hit his first four passes and found Chris Hannon for a 21-yard scoring play. But he also threw an ill-advised interception.

    "I started off strong, went in there and made some throws and got the ball rolling," said Croyle, who was 6-for-11 for 82 yards. "The second series, I got a little greedy and went for it all to bury them right there -- a bad decision on my part."
    Miami's retooled offensive line, a big worry all during training camp, opened hole after hole in the first quarter for Ronnie Brown, who had gains of 12 and 10 yards to get Green's long drive started.
    Green said he sees the offensive line growing.
    "I do, and that's something we touched on during the week," he said. "Practices were going better. We still have improvement to do, but from week No. 1 to week No. 2, it was a good step."
    The Dolphins' only score of the first half came with Cleo Lemon under center. He hit Chris Chambers for 12 yards on third-and-3 from the 46, and then Brown broke through a big hole in the middle of the line for 22 yards, with Ty Law pulling him down on the 16 to prevent the touchdown. After Brown was stopped for no gain on third down, Jay Feely kicked a 30-yard field goal on the second play of the second quarter.
    Kansas City's rookie kicker, Justin Medlock, missed from 37 and 42 yards before finally connecting on his third try, a 34-yarder that put the Chiefs on top 10-3 with 8:18 to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chiefster View Post
    I didn't see most of this game; it sounds as if I didn't miss much offensively.
    As Guru would say, You missed a few passes, a few tackles, a few runs, and a disappointing loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sling58 View Post
    As Guru would say, You missed a few nice passes, a lot of missed tackles, a lot of runs, and a not that disappointing loss.
    Fixed your post.

    I really didn't come away disappointed with this game.
    THAT quarterback is NOT a Pro Bowl quarterback. Never was and never will be.

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    Glad that's all I missed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RednGold99 View Post
    And it doesn't make me feel any better either when Zach Thomas, Jason Taylor and Joey Porter didn't even play!!!
    Yeah, that is pretty frightening that we couldn't run the ball any better than we did.


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    Quote Originally Posted by luv View Post
    But.....but.....look at what Huard did LAST YEAR. He was so awesome! He over and underthrew passes which the receivers managed to catch and it made him the second best QB in the entire league! Why would we want to start a new QB in his SECOND YEAR? We should waste his talent to the point that we trade him for yet another older backup QB. Yeah, that's it!
    (the room thick with sarcasm)

    You all are right. Huard SUCKED last year. His passes were SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO bad. WOW. It's a good thing the Chiefs have God's gift to QB's, otherwise known as the receiving corps of the century! A 43 year old Eddie Kennison and Sammie - do I have stickum on my hands? I must, cause I never drop a pass - Parker.

    Can you imagine what Huard would have looked like with less than all-pro receivers out there? How blessed is Arrowhead to have these perenial all pro receivers? How else could Huard have gotten to a 98 passer rating, 60% + completion percentage and an 11-1 TD to Interception ratio?

    And don't forget that huge talent coming out of the backfield, Larry "my hands are like a vaccuum sucking in receptions" Johnson.

    Seriously. Please. You can say Huard is not worthy of Montana / Farve / Namath / Marino status. No one will argue with you. But to say the Chiefs receivers carried him is stretching the limits of even exaggeration. We had so many $!#Q#$ dropped balls for first downs it was PITIFUL.

    This is the only thread on the entire INTERNET (and I hear that thing goes to a lot of people - thousands they say) that would say the Chiefs receivers of 2006 had the ability to make anyone look good....

    He earned his ratings & numbers. Don't take it away by remembering a small number of nice catches and forgetting the dropped gimmees.

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    This, too, comes as no surprise to me.

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    Damon Huard

    41 Games Played 318/533 for 3659yards 20td and 9 int and an 85.2 QB Rating. Dosen't sound like the second best QB in the league to me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canada's #1 Chiefs Fan View Post
    Damon Huard

    41 Games Played 318/533 for 3659yards 20td and 9 int and an 85.2 QB Rating. Dosen't sound like the second best QB in the league to me!
    Doesn't sound too bad either. With a strong running game and a solid D, you could be talking about a play-off caliber team there. Thanks for bringing in #'s to support my theory!!!!



    Extrapolate Croyle's "historical" #'s (which are all with the Chiefs offense, so really more apples to apples), and 20/9 looks awfully good....
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    Quote Originally Posted by stlchief View Post
    Doesn't sound too bad either. With a strong running game and a solid D, you could be talking about a play-off caliber team there. Thanks for bringing in #'s to support my theory!!!!



    Extrapolate Croyle's "historical" #'s (which are all with the Chiefs offense, so really more apples to apples), and 20/9 looks awfully good....

    I have still never said that Huard is not good, I said he is average. 20/9 looks awfully good...take away the
    11-1 last year and he is 9-8. Average is it not??
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    ouch. I thought the 20/9 was before the 11-1. Hmmm. the numbers don't look so good. let's take this offline.
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