The Chiefs and Character Profiling

**colonelp76** · 03-28-2012, 05:55 AM

Hi everyone. Im a new NFL fan from England and I'm currently without an NFL team. Given that I don't have any particular connections to the USA I have decided to choose a team based on certain personal criteria. Recently I've read about the importance the Chiefs place on character assessment and I really like the idea of this, based on the notion that it will instill a good team work ethic and possibly generate role models for the future. I respect teams who don't make headlines for the wrong reasons and are known for being honest and hard working (i.e. likeable). I also like the fact the Chiefs are a smaller market team without the large volume of fans like some of the 'bigger' teams. So far I have discovered that both the Chiefs and the Falcons are strong on the character profiling philosophy and I'm just waiting to find out something that separates the two teams for me. I realise I'm posting this in a Chiefs forum but that's partly because Chiefs fans have a decent and knowledgeable reputation, so I'm sure I will get a helpful response. Basically, what factors get considered by Pioli in terms of team selection and can you influence my support either way? Sorry for the length of this and thanks for reading.

**colonelp76** · 03-28-2012, 07:57 PM

Wow, you guys haven't let me down with your insight and passion for the team. I've read the Kansas City Star article and that reassures me even more that Pioli is the real deal when it comes to considering future prospects...interesting that they even look at the size of someones hands! Fit for purpose and all that. I also looked at the wikipedia entry of LJ, who I was aware of but I must admit I hadn't realised the amount of negative incidents he was invovled in.
Awesome replies, especially TopekaRoy in relation to your switch from the Bears but finding the Chiefs with the same high standards that you liked. Cheers

**Connie Jo** · 03-28-2012, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by colonelp76

Hi everyone. Im a new NFL fan from England and I'm currently without an NFL team. Given that I don't have any particular connections to the USA I have decided to choose a team based on certain personal criteria. Recently I've read about the importance the Chiefs place on character assessment and I really like the idea of this, based on the notion that it will instill a good team work ethic and possibly generate role models for the future. I respect teams who don't make headlines for the wrong reasons and are known for being honest and hard working (i.e. likeable). I also like the fact the Chiefs are a smaller market team without the large volume of fans like some of the 'bigger' teams. So far I have discovered that both the Chiefs and the Falcons are strong on the character profiling philosophy and I'm just waiting to find out something that separates the two teams for me. I realise I'm posting this in a Chiefs forum but that's partly because Chiefs fans have a decent and knowledgeable reputation, so I'm sure I will get a helpful response. Basically, what factors get considered by Pioli in terms of team selection and can you influence my support either way? Sorry for the length of this and thanks for reading.

Hello, colonelp76...

First, I want to thank Chiefster for directing me to your question by posting a link on my FB wall. In a few minutes I'll return to discuss your query further, as currently I'm about to eat some dinner. Be back shortly. :)

**TopekaRoy** · 03-28-2012, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by colonelp76

Awesome replies, especially TopekaRoy in relation to your switch from the Bears but finding the Chiefs with the same high standards that you liked. Cheers

Thanks, Colonel, but there was no switch. The Bears are still my favorite team, but the Chiefs are a very close 2nd! Because they are in different conferences, they only play each other once every four years, so I have no problem rooting hard for both teams!

**Connie Jo** · 03-28-2012, 11:07 PM

I must say this is the first time I've been asked to 'solicit' my beloved Chiefs to a potential new fan, hahaha. Please don't apologize for 'length' of post, as I asssure you, no one posts lengthier ones than I do, hahaha. I'm a person of detail & depth in all aspects, especially when a subject is one I'm passionate about. I also speak, or write, from my heart, so here it is;

My dad became a Chiefs fan in 1963 when they arrived in Kansas City...I was 7 yrs. old back then. I was raised a Chiefs fan, and don't know life without the Chiefs being a part of it in one aspect or another. I didn't choose the Chiefs as my NFL team, they more or less chose me in a natural hereditary manner, hahaha. I've remained a loyal Chiefs fan through adulthood for two reasons. The first; because the Chiefs are a very part of who I naturally am as a person...being a Chiefs fan for me personally is more than a hobby, or pastime...it's literally a way of life, a lifestyle.

Secondly, I remain a fan by choice for many of the reasons you've defined; franchise integrity. Our KC Chiefs franchise founder, Lamar Hunt (RIP), set not only a franchise example of integrity decades ago, but set such an example for the entire NFL. To this day, the honorable & admirable Lamar Hunt is highly respected among all associated with the NFL corporate umbrella...BOD's, CEO's, owners, GM's, coaches, players, & beyond. No single man was more influential, nor more important to the history of NFL as we've come to know it, than Lamar Hunt. Lamar being our franchise founder/owner, as well as founder of the AFL, in itself sets the Chiefs franchise apart from all others. If you have the time, I suggest you research the history of the AFL, The KC Chiefs, and Lamar Hunt. There is a very justified & admirable reason the AFC Championship Trophy is named in honor of our KC Chiefs legendary founder/owner. :)

Further setting us apart...the Chiefs fanbase is considered by many so called analysts, or experts, to be the most loyal in the NFL. Our fanbase is also considered to be among, if not #1, the friendliest among the NFL. We rarely have serious incidents of violence by comparison to that of other fanbases. Although all teams have rogue fans, we have less than a majority of other fanbases. As you said referenced yourself..."Chiefs fans have a decent and knowledgeable reputation."

Lamar Hunt also instilled within the fanbase a sense of respect for our franchise history & AFL orgins. No other franchise appears to be on the same level of respect for our history & orgins than that of the Chiefs. You may wish to visit www.kcchiefs.com to view "The Hall of Honor" inside of Arrowhead Stadium, which is an honorable tribute to our franchise history, as well, AFL orgins. Our beautiful Arrowhead Stadium is unlike any other, it is unique in history & traditions.

Relating to Scott Pioli...although I've personally met and conversed with him one on one, I can't define in depth what factors are considered by him personally when building a team. With exception of the obvious of course...athletic talent & ability, personality traits such as dedication, team committment, work ethic, & so on. I do know Scott Pioli expects no more, or less, from any one within the Chiefs franchise than that of himself. He's not one for 'double standards', & believes in setting an example as an influence to follow, just as Lamar did. He runs a tight ship, as he should. :)

Not sure what more I can add, other than the colors RED & GOLD are the most attractive and outstanding in the NFL, hahaha. ;)

**Connie Jo** · 03-28-2012, 11:12 PM

Originally Posted by Chiefster

I think you definitely are considering the best team in the NFL, but I'm a Chiefs fan and a bit bias in their favor.

The best person I can think of to ask this question to is Connie Jo; a well known and respected member of this sight, and someone who has first hand insights into the Chiefs administration. However, I will say this: that I believe the Chiefs take the character high road, so to speak, almost to their detriment. I hope you become a Chiefs fan, it is a team rich in professional football history. Without it's original owner Lamar Hunt (RIP) the NFL as we know it today does not exist. Google Lamar and read up on the teams history and I'll trust that you'll make the right decision.

Thank you for your kind words and praise, although I don't feel worthy of such, it is appreciated.

**colonelp76** · 03-29-2012, 10:40 AM

TopekaRoy- thanks for the correction. I must admit the Bears will also be my second team. I first tuned into NFL in 1985 when it came to our tv screens and obviously it was the Bears who I was most exposed to. I didnt want to choose them though purely because I like the idea of a respectable small market team, hence me shortlisting the Chiefs and Falcons.
Connie, thanks for your detailed reply. I already have the sense that you are all very welcolming fan base and thats a nice feeling. In all fairness though I will pose a similar question to the Falcons fans and see how they respond.
I do like what I have heard so far though and I feel like I need to read up more on Lamarr so that I can better appreciate the vision of the Chiefs that he was looking for. Its also great that the franchise is still in family hands. On the whole would you say that the individuals that make up the team are a likeable bunch? So often I read about clubs whose players are either Divas, getting in trouble or simply carrying an enormous ego. So far the only minor criticism I have read about was Baldwin's punching injury from last season but there again I can't expect any team to be perfect. Thanks

**Eydugstr** · 03-29-2012, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by colonelp76

Hi everyone. Im a new NFL fan from England and I'm currently without an NFL team. Given that I don't have any particular connections to the USA I have decided to choose a team based on certain personal criteria. Recently I've read about the importance the Chiefs place on character assessment and I really like the idea of this, based on the notion that it will instill a good team work ethic and possibly generate role models for the future. I respect teams who don't make headlines for the wrong reasons and are known for being honest and hard working (i.e. likeable). I also like the fact the Chiefs are a smaller market team without the large volume of fans like some of the 'bigger' teams. So far I have discovered that both the Chiefs and the Falcons are strong on the character profiling philosophy and I'm just waiting to find out something that separates the two teams for me. I realise I'm posting this in a Chiefs forum but that's partly because Chiefs fans have a decent and knowledgeable reputation, so I'm sure I will get a helpful response. Basically, what factors get considered by Pioli in terms of team selection and can you influence my support either way? Sorry for the length of this and thanks for reading.

Welcome to the forum! If you're ever across the pond, and venture this far west, come try the BBQ. You could've picked anyone but hey you picked KC!

As far as character goes, during the first couple of years Pioli was here he drafted players that had leadership creditentials. When the Joplin tornadoes struck, many Chiefs players and coaches went down to help out. Our current QB went out of his way, and at much personal risk to let a family know their house caught fire. As a team it says a lot. We've had a few bad apples over the years, but for the most part they didn't last long.

As to our market...Arrowhead has been one of the loudest open top stadiums for years. The AFC west is an absolute dogfight year after year. Many sports teams come and go in this area, but the Chiefs still remain. Kansas City is definitely a football town. Many times if the stadium isn't sold out, local radio stations buy the tickets and host contests to give them away, so million or so people in the surrounding area can still watch the game and not be affected by NFL tv blackout rules.

**TopekaRoy** · 03-29-2012, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by colonelp76

So far the only minor criticism I have read about was Baldwin's punching injury from last season but there again I can't expect any team to be perfect. Thanks

Baldwin came in with a sense of "entitlement" and the team knew when they drafted him that could be an issue. They felt that his potential was too great to pass up and that the strong leadership in the locker room would turn him around.

As it turned out, he did need an "attitude adjustment" and Thomas Jones was just the person to give it to him! He (Jones) did the same thing to Cedric Benson when he came in to the league as a Bear. Benson was a little more hard headed than Baldwin and the Bears eventually let him go. He now plays for the Cincinnati Bengals.

Since Baldwin's hand has healed, as far as we know, he has been a model teammate. He works hard and seems to know his place and his role as a Chief. So in this case, the strong leadership of the Chiefs has turned him around. We expect big things from Baldwin this year and I think he will deliver.