December 29th, 3:15 p.m. ET
Last game of the season for Geno Smith, and our last chance to see him play as a Mountaineer before the Draft.
December 29th, 3:15 p.m. ET
Last game of the season for Geno Smith, and our last chance to see him play as a Mountaineer before the Draft.
A bit weird if you ask me. I did some digging and only three qbs taken in the second round of the last 3 drafts.
Osweiler-2012
Kaepernick and daulton-2011
None in 2010
Go back three more and i think it's only four but of those four I think only chad henne still plays. Percentage wise you would be correct but the sample size is pretty small.
Is it just 2nd rounders or non 1st rounders in general?
Here is a list of QB's with multiple Superbowl starts picked at or after the 2nd round:
Tom Brady-6th round pick
Joe Montana-3rd round pick
Roger Stauhbach-10th round pick
Kurt Warner-undrafted
Fran Tarkenton-3rd round pick
Bart Starr-17th round pick
Joe Theismann-4th round pick
Brett Favre-2nd round pick
A list of all QB's that started and won a superbowl picked in the 2nd or later round:
Bart Starr-17th
Johnny U.-9th
Roger Staubach-10th
Ken Stabler-2nd
Joe Montana-3rd
Joe Theismann-4th
Jeff Hosteler-3rd
Mark Rypien-6th
Brett Favre-2nd
Kurt Warner-undrafted
Tom Brady-6th
Brad Johnson-9th
Drew Brees-2nd
List of other QB's that started and lost a superbowl(picked 2nd or later round):
Daryle Lamonica-24th
Joe Kapp-18th
Fran Tarkenton-3rd
Vince Ferragamo-4th
Ron Jaworski-2nd
Ken Anderson-3rd
David Woodley-8th
Boomer Esiason-2nd
Stan Humphries-6th
Neil O'Donnell-3rd
Chris Chandler-3rd
Rich Gannon-4th
Jake Delhomme-undrafted
Matt Hasselbeck-6th
Just a list, but there are some pretty good qb's that were not a first round pick.
That's fine and all, but the only active player on that list is Tom Brady who was drafted 12 years ago. Since then there has been much more emphasis placed on the QB position as the league has gotten ridiculously pass happy.
I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying that recent history would tell us that all of the good QBs are going to get scooped up in the 1st round (Russell Wilson being one of the few exceptions).
People's Exhibit A:
2011 draft -- Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder.
It's going to come down to who Andy Reid likes best when the combine and the individual workouts are said and done & whether or not he feels he needs to stay put and pull the trigger on his guy or maybe he has two guys neck & neck and he feels he can trade down a few slots and get one of those guys. Time will tell.
Don't forget our pick in the second round is the second pick so not that far from the first round, 34th pick.
I see what you are saying. But there are a lot of prolific passers on that list.
The 1st round QB trail is littered with a lot of busts too!
Ryan Leaf
Jamarcus Russell
Todd Marinovich
Andre Ware
Heath Shuler
Cade McNown
Jim Druckenmiller
Matt Leinhart
Joey Harrington
Todd Blacklege
to name a few. Value can be had . It may not be the Ferrari you wanted, but a dependable pickup will get you there.
How's Matt Shaub doing by the way?
We're all aware of the busts. I'm sorry though, that should not stop the Chiefs at all from drafting a QB if they think they have their guy.
Here's the list of 2nd round QBs taken between Brees and Favre (bothy 2nd rounders):
Quincy Carter (Cowboys), 2001 - 34 starts
Marques Tuiasosopo (Raiders), 2001 - 2 starts
Shaun King (Bucs), 1999 - 24 starts
Charlie Batch (Lions), 1998 - 53 starts
Jake Plummer (Cardinals) - 136 starts
Tony Banks (Rams), 1996 - 78 starts
Todd Collins (Bills), 1995 - 21 starts
Kordell Stewart (Steelers), 1995 - 87 starts, career 77:84 TD-to-INT ratio
Matt Blundin (Chiefs), 1992 - 0 starts
Tony Sacca (Cardinals), 1992 - 0 starts
Here's the list taken after Brees:
Andy Dalton (Bengals), 2011
Colin Kaepernick (49ers), 2011
Jimmy Clausen (Panthers), 2010
Pat White (Dolphins), 2009
Brian Brohm (Packers), 2008
Chad Henne (Dolphins), 2008
Kevin Kolb (Eagles), 2007
John Beck (Dolphins), 2007
Drew Stanton (Lions), 2007
Kellen Clemens (Jets), 2006
Tarvaris Jackson (Vikings), 2006
Source: http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nf...b-success-rate
Now just count the names on those two lists versus the list you provided...
Any way you try to swing it, you have a much much much much better chance of getting a Good QB in the 1st round. The 2nd rounders have about a 10% success rate.
At this point I'd almost rather use our picks for other areas of need, and draft our qbotf next year when hopefully the qb class is better. Pick up a veteran (maybe Hasselbeck) and a second stringer to get through 2013. At this point I'm not sold on any of the qbs coming out. But then again I'm no expert, or scout.
Doing my best to keep my sons memory alive!!!
At this point I'd almost rather use our picks for other areas of need, and draft our qbotf next year when hopefully the qb class is better. Pick up a veteran (maybe Hasselbeck) and a second stringer to get through 2013. At this point I'm not sold on any of the qbs coming out. But then again I'm no expert, or scout.
And ouch, did you HAVE to bring up Blackledge??
Doing my best to keep my sons memory alive!!!
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