Chiefs 2009 salary cap figures

[texaschief]

Not including rookie contracts for those rookies coming in from the 2009 draft, these players have contracts with the Chiefs NEXT season. If the trend continues, the estimated salary cap for 2009 is $121.8 million. These salary cap figures are based on the contracts that they sign. They are not factored in with their "Cap Hit." Usually, a player's "Cap Hit" is larger than their salary number.


Albert, Branden- 493,750
Barth, Connor- 385k
Battle, Jackie- 460k
Boone, Alfonso- 1.4mil
Bowe, Dwayne- 460k
Bradley, Mark- 620k
Carnahan, Andrew- 385k
Carr, Brandon-385k
Charles, Jamaal- 385k
Colclough, Ricardo- 620k
Colquitt, Dustin- 900k
Cottam, Brad- 385k
Cox, Mike-385k
Croyle, Brodie- 530K
Darche, Jean-Philippe- 745k
Darling, Devard- 1mil
Dorsey, Glenn- 385k
Edwards, Donnie- 5mil
Edwards, Ron- 1.5mil
Flowers, Brandon-385k
Franklin, Will-385k
Gafford, Thomas-385k
Gatewood, Curtis-385k
Gonzalez, Tony- 4mil
Gray, Quinn-750k
Hali, Tamba-940k
Huard, Damon-2mil
Johnson, Derrick-1mil
Johnson, Larry-4.5mil
Johnston, Brian-385k
Leggett, Maurice-385k
Macklin, David- 745k
McBride, Turk-460k
McIntosh, Damion-2.1mil
Merritt, Mike-385k
Morgan, DaJuan-385k
Pollard, Bernard-530k
Richardson, Barry-385k
Robinson, Kevin-385k
Smith, Kolby-460k
Smith, Wade-620k
Studebaker, Andy-385k
Surtain, Pat-7mil
Taylor, Herb-460k
Thigpen, Tyler-460K
Tyler, Demarcus-460k
Washington, Tavares-385k
Waters, Brian- 3.6mil
Williams, Demario-1mil

Total committed salary for the 2009 season is:
$51,743,750

Not including the "cap hit" figures and signing bonuses for rookies, the Chiefs will have somewhere around $65 million in cap room to play with. The bargaining agreement requires teams to spend AT LEAST 86% of their salary cap. That figure comes out to be roughly $99.76 million if the cap est. is correct. "Cap Hit" numbers and signing bonuses with eat up a big portion of the $40 million the Chiefs have to spend, but that still leaves a big number for the Chiefs to make up just to get in compliance with the NFL/NFLPA agreement.

Some names the Chiefs will have to look at just from their own crop of free agents, will be:
Jason Babin- Starting DE
Rocky Boiman- Starting LB
Adrian Jones- Backup OG
Jon McGraw- Backup S
Rudy Niswanger- Starting C
Jarrad Page- Starting S
Pat Thomas- Backup LB
Jeff Webb- WR

Just from that list, you're looking at having to either re-sign or replace 4 or 5 starters to go along with the holes we already have.

Let's say we let all our free agents walk. What are we left with?

Defense:
LE- OPEN
LT- Tyler
RT- Dorsey
RE- Hali
LOLB- OPEN
MLB- OPEN
ROLB- D. Johnson
LCB- Carr/Leggett
RCB- Flowers
SS- Pollard
FS- OPEN

Offense:
WR- Bowe
LT- Albert/Taylor/OPEN
LG- Waters/OPEN
C- OPEN/Waters
RG- OPEN/Albert
RT- OPEN/Taylor/Albert
TE- Gonzo/Cottam
WR- Bradley
QB- Thigpen/OPEN
FB- Cox
RB- Johnson/Charles

Special
K-Barth
P-Colquitt
KR-Robinson/Charles

That leaves us with potentially 4 holes on defense and 3 holes on offense if we go with Thigpen. 7 holes to fill with either the guys we have, free agents or the 2009 draft class.

To recap, we'll have roughly $25-35 million in cap space. We're going to be drafting in the top 5 in April. We will have a new GM. We will have 7 holes to fill.

On offense, we're going to need a:
Center
OG and/or
OT

On defense, we're going to need a:
DE
OLB
MLB
S



You are the new GM. Go have fun.

[texaschief]

Personally, I think Taylor has earned a job on this offensive line and wouldn't be totally against giving him the LT spot if he can't be moved to another spot. We already know that Albert in versatile enough to move inside if need be. I think we could move Niswanger over to a guard spot to make room for a solid, true C out of college like Mack. My first experiment though would be to put Taylor at RT and see if he can lock that spot down and move Niswanger to the RG spot. It would be really nice to be able to fill most of our OLine needs with guys we already have as opposed to signing big expensive contracts with free agents or spending high draft picks on OTs. Not that having another 1st round OT wouldn't be nice. It's just a luxury that we wouldn't necessarily need if we can fill those holes before we get to free agency or the draft.

IMO, our focus in free agency NEEDS to be LBs. I know we already have an expensive one on the books with Edwards, but he's just going to have to be dead weight. If we can get one good LB and or one good DE in FA, then we can get the remaining one or two that we'll need with the first couple picks in the draft.

[jmlamerson]

Keep long term:

Albert, Branden- 493,750
Barth, Connor- 385k
Bowe, Dwayne- 460k
Bradley, Mark- 620k
Carr, Brandon-385k
Charles, Jamaal- 385k
Colquitt, Dustin- 900k
Cottam, Brad- 385k
Cox, Mike-385k
Dorsey, Glenn- 385k
Flowers, Brandon-385k
Gonzalez, Tony- 4mil
Johnson, Derrick-1mil
Leggett, Maurice-385k
Pollard, Bernard-530k
Thigpen, Tyler-460K
Waters, Brian- 3.6mil

Keep as backup until contract expires:

Battle, Jackie- 460k
Boone, Alfonso- 1.4mil
Edwards, Ron- 1.5mil
Franklin, Will-385k
Gray, Quinn-750k
Hali, Tamba-940k
Johnston, Brian-385k
McBride, Turk-460k
Merritt, Mike-385k
Morgan, DaJuan-385k
Richardson, Barry-385k
Robinson, Kevin-385k
Smith, Kolby-460k
Smith, Wade-620k
Taylor, Herb-460k
Tyler, Demarcus-460k

Resign (if reasonable):

Jason Babin- As backup DE
Rocky Boiman- As backup LB
Rudy Niswanger- As backup C/OG

Cut/Trade/Let leave as FA:

Croyle, Brodie- 530K
Darling, Devard- 1mil
Edwards, Donnie- 5mil
McIntosh, Damion-2.1mil
Huard, Damon-2mil
Johnson, Larry-4.5mil
Surtain, Pat-7mil
Williams, Demario-1mil
Adrian Jones- Backup OG
Jon McGraw- Backup S
Jarrad Page- Starting S
Pat Thomas- Backup LB
Jeff Webb- WR

Don't Know/Care:

Carnahan, Andrew- 385k
Colclough, Ricardo- 620k
Darche, Jean-Philippe- 745k
Gafford, Thomas-385k
Gatewood, Curtis-385k
Macklin, David- 745k
Studebaker, Andy-385k
Washington, Tavares-385k

Our focus going into this offseason should be:

Defense:
LE- NEED STARTER
LDT- NEED STARTER
RDT- Dorsey
RE- NEED STARTER
LOLB- NEED STARTER
MLB- NEED STARTER
ROLB- D. Johnson
LCB- Carr/Leggett
RCB- Flowers
SS- Pollard
FS- NEED STARTER

Offense:
WR- Bowe
LT- Albert
LG- Waters
C- NEED STARTER
RG- NEED STARTER
RT- NEED STARTER
TE- Gonzo
WR- Bradley
QB- Thigpen
FB- Cox
RB- NEED STARTER

Special
K-Barth
P-Colquitt
KR-NEED STARTER

A new 1WR and 1CB would be nice too (I'm growing on the idea of signing Housmanzadah and I love the idea of Asomugha locking down out CB slot for the next decade). I think Pollard will improve as soon as we can Gunther, so he can remain a starter. Fill the defensive problems through FA (except maybe LB), and draft the offense. I'm for moving Albert to LG, Waters to RG, and drafting Andre Smith or Oher if they're available when we pick. I don't like Robinson or Charles as our KR/PR, and I think we can do better in the draft. We might as well hope and pray Dorsey improves against the run and builds some upper body strength this offeason.

[Big Daddy Tek]

Originally Posted by jmlamerson

Keep long term:

Albert, Branden- 493,750
Barth, Connor- 385k
Bowe, Dwayne- 460k
Bradley, Mark- 620k
Carr, Brandon-385k
Charles, Jamaal- 385k
Colquitt, Dustin- 900k
Cottam, Brad- 385k
Cox, Mike-385k
Dorsey, Glenn- 385k
Flowers, Brandon-385k
Gonzalez, Tony- 4mil
Johnson, Derrick-1mil
Leggett, Maurice-385k
Pollard, Bernard-530k
Thigpen, Tyler-460K
Waters, Brian- 3.6mil

Keep as backup until contract expires:

Battle, Jackie- 460k
Boone, Alfonso- 1.4mil
Edwards, Ron- 1.5mil
Franklin, Will-385k
Gray, Quinn-750k
Hali, Tamba-940k
Johnston, Brian-385k
McBride, Turk-460k
Merritt, Mike-385k
Morgan, DaJuan-385k
Richardson, Barry-385k
Robinson, Kevin-385k
Smith, Kolby-460k
Smith, Wade-620k
Taylor, Herb-460k
Tyler, Demarcus-460k

Resign (if reasonable):

Jason Babin- As backup DE
Rocky Boiman- As backup LB
Rudy Niswanger- As backup C/OG

Cut/Trade/Let leave as FA:

Croyle, Brodie- 530K
Darling, Devard- 1mil
Edwards, Donnie- 5mil
McIntosh, Damion-2.1mil
Huard, Damon-2mil
Johnson, Larry-4.5mil
Surtain, Pat-7mil
Williams, Demario-1mil
Adrian Jones- Backup OG
Jon McGraw- Backup S
Jarrad Page- Starting S
Pat Thomas- Backup LB
Jeff Webb- WR

Don't Know/Care:

Carnahan, Andrew- 385k
Colclough, Ricardo- 620k
Darche, Jean-Philippe- 745k
Gafford, Thomas-385k
Gatewood, Curtis-385k
Macklin, David- 745k
Studebaker, Andy-385k
Washington, Tavares-385k

Our focus going into this offseason should be:

Defense:
LE- NEED STARTER
LDT- NEED STARTER
RDT- Dorsey
RE- NEED STARTER
LOLB- NEED STARTER
MLB- NEED STARTER
ROLB- D. Johnson
LCB- Carr/Leggett
RCB- Flowers
SS- Pollard
FS- NEED STARTER

Offense:
WR- Bowe
LT- Albert
LG- Waters
C- NEED STARTER
RG- NEED STARTER
RT- NEED STARTER
TE- Gonzo
WR- Bradley
QB- Thigpen
FB- Cox
RB- NEED STARTER

Special
K-Barth
P-Colquitt
KR-NEED STARTER

A new 1WR and 1CB would be nice too (I'm growing on the idea of signing Housmanzadah and I love the idea of Asomugha locking down out CB slot for the next decade). I think Pollard will improve as soon as we can Gunther, so he can remain a starter. Fill the defensive problems through FA (except maybe LB), and draft the offense. I'm for moving Albert to LG, Waters to RG, and drafting Andre Smith or Oher if they're available when we pick. I don't like Robinson or Charles as our KR/PR, and I think we can do better in the draft. We might as well hope and pray Dorsey improves against the run and builds some upper body strength this offeason.

Hahahahah, You got one hell of a cap penalty building up after all of your big money cuts and have 11 spots to fill in the off season. You cut Jarad Page? 3 weeks ago, it was Bernard that you wanted to cut and Page to keep. Its OK JM, youll learn what its about one day buddy.

[jap1]

Im not going to quote because the response will be like 3 pages long.

In regards to texaschief's post:
I assume you think D. Edwards is not starting material anymore because you did not list him under the defensive starters. Which I dont disagree with because he has not been able to stay healthy.

Oh and am I the only one who is floored that our two highest paid players are Surtain and Edwards? And they both have pretty much been hurt all season.

I think on offense we need EITHER a starting C or G. If we get a center, move Niswanger or McIntosh to G. If we get a G, keep Niswanger at C.

In regards to JM's post:
First, I disagree with cutting Brodie Croyle. We will need a 3rd string QB, and Croyle makes less than Gray, so why not as long as Herm Edwards has lost his woody for Brodie.
Next, as we both know I disagree about cutting LJ, so I wont go into that too much.
I dont like the idea of Asomugha. Maybe I am just biased because I dont like any player wearing silver and black, or I just dont like paying a crap ton of money to CBs. Any CB can look good IF you get a decent pass rush. Look at the Giants last year. Plus Flowers and Carr are doing pretty good.
On the same note I am satisfied with our safeties. They wouldnt get burnt deep if the QB didnt have enough time to get a shiatsu massage with a "happy ending" before he throws the ball. I also hate the "Tampa 2" defense. It is useless unless you get pressure and sacks with just the 4 down linemen. But ANY defense should be good if you dont have to blitz to get pressure and can drop 7 guys into coverage. I prefer a mix of traditional cover 2 and 3 with an aggressive blitz strategy. But I digress ...
I think Albert should stay at T. Left or right is open for debate.

If I were GM (Mr. Hunt, you can expect my resume and application in the mail haha), this is how I would rank our needs, in order of importance:
RDE
RT
2 LBs
RG/C
luxury upgrades:
LDT
WR (slot or #2)
KR
OL depth
LB depth
DL depth

I would get a pro-bowl or nearly pro-bowl caliber RT, RDE, and LB in FA. OLB v MLB depends on who is available, age and how DJ does at MLB (jury is still out in my opinion).

In the draft I would trade down in the first and pick-up a LB (Mauluga for MLB or Cushing (USC) for OLB) in the middle-late first round. A G/C and/or DL with our 2 2nd round picks (depending on what we get for the trade down). RT or LB in the 3rd round for OL depth. In the 4th round on I would draft the best players available. The majority of people in the fourth round never make it past their rookie contracts, let alone become starters.

[theaxeeffect4311]

Here are the free agents that the Chiefs need:

1. Terrell Suggs (DE)
2. Jonathan Vilma (ILB)

Here are a few that I am not sure will make it to FA:

1. Jordan Gross (OT)
2. Vernon Carey (RT)

And if we need a CB, I would look at Jabari Greer from the Bills, since I doubt that Oakland will let go of Asomugha.

I am OK with moving Albert to RT or OG because I think the Chiefs could draft a great LT in Andre Smith, Michael Oher, or Eugene Monroe.

[texaschief]

Originally Posted by jmlamerson

Keep long term:

Albert, Branden- 493,750
Barth, Connor- 385k
Bowe, Dwayne- 460k
Bradley, Mark- 620k
Carr, Brandon-385k
Charles, Jamaal- 385k
Colquitt, Dustin- 900k
Cottam, Brad- 385k
Cox, Mike-385k
Dorsey, Glenn- 385k
Flowers, Brandon-385k
Gonzalez, Tony- 4mil
Johnson, Derrick-1mil
Leggett, Maurice-385k
Pollard, Bernard-530k
Thigpen, Tyler-460K
Waters, Brian- 3.6mil

Keep as backup until contract expires:

Battle, Jackie- 460k
Boone, Alfonso- 1.4mil
Edwards, Ron- 1.5mil
Franklin, Will-385k
Gray, Quinn-750k
Hali, Tamba-940k
Johnston, Brian-385k
McBride, Turk-460k
Merritt, Mike-385k
Morgan, DaJuan-385k
Richardson, Barry-385k
Robinson, Kevin-385k
Smith, Kolby-460k
Smith, Wade-620k
Taylor, Herb-460k
Tyler, Demarcus-460k

Resign (if reasonable):

Jason Babin- As backup DE
Rocky Boiman- As backup LB
Rudy Niswanger- As backup C/OG

Cut/Trade/Let leave as FA:

Croyle, Brodie- 530K
Darling, Devard- 1mil
Edwards, Donnie- 5mil
McIntosh, Damion-2.1mil
Huard, Damon-2mil
Johnson, Larry-4.5mil
Surtain, Pat-7mil
Williams, Demario-1mil
Adrian Jones- Backup OG
Jon McGraw- Backup S
Jarrad Page- Starting S
Pat Thomas- Backup LB
Jeff Webb- WR

Don't Know/Care:

Carnahan, Andrew- 385k
Colclough, Ricardo- 620k
Darche, Jean-Philippe- 745k
Gafford, Thomas-385k
Gatewood, Curtis-385k
Macklin, David- 745k
Studebaker, Andy-385k
Washington, Tavares-385k

Our focus going into this offseason should be:

Defense:
LE- NEED STARTER
LDT- NEED STARTER
RDT- Dorsey
RE- NEED STARTER
LOLB- NEED STARTER
MLB- NEED STARTER
ROLB- D. Johnson
LCB- Carr/Leggett
RCB- Flowers
SS- Pollard
FS- NEED STARTER

Offense:
WR- Bowe
LT- Albert
LG- Waters
C- NEED STARTER
RG- NEED STARTER
RT- NEED STARTER
TE- Gonzo
WR- Bradley
QB- Thigpen
FB- Cox
RB- NEED STARTER

Special
K-Barth
P-Colquitt
KR-NEED STARTER

A new 1WR and 1CB would be nice too (I'm growing on the idea of signing Housmanzadah and I love the idea of Asomugha locking down out CB slot for the next decade). I think Pollard will improve as soon as we can Gunther, so he can remain a starter. Fill the defensive problems through FA (except maybe LB), and draft the offense. I'm for moving Albert to LG, Waters to RG, and drafting Andre Smith or Oher if they're available when we pick. I don't like Robinson or Charles as our KR/PR, and I think we can do better in the draft. We might as well hope and pray Dorsey improves against the run and builds some upper body strength this offeason.

...clueless

[jtandcrew]

I have said it before and will say it again! Move Herb to RT leave Alabert at LT! Draft 2 guards since Jones sucks and I would be surprised if Waters comes back!

[jmlamerson]

Originally Posted by Big Daddy Tek

Hahahahah, You got one hell of a cap penalty building up after all of your big money cuts and have 11 spots to fill in the off season. You cut Jarad Page? 3 weeks ago, it was Bernard that you wanted to cut and Page to keep. Its OK JM, youll learn what its about one day buddy.

I never said we should keep Page. I've said all year we need to let him go. You don't know what you are talking about.

I've also said all year that Pollard needs to go if we keep the Cover 2. As I said above, after we can Herm and Gunther, we'll probably go to a real defense. You don't know what you are talking about.

Our cap penalty isn't that much cutting those guys, as most are in the final years of their contracts. And we'll have more than enough cap room to stomach the hits. You don't know what you are talking about.

You know less about football than anyone else on these boards.

[jmlamerson]

Originally Posted by texaschief

...clueless

So, you couldn't actually come up with any real objections? Pathetic.