Reply To: Does Kurt Warner belong in the HOF?

06/04/2009 at 8:43 pm #885928

jmlamerson

chief31;137233 wrote:

Oh stop it. I have made one argument. That there is fact to support the opinion.

That argument was over before it began, and you lost.

Did it really take you a month to come up with this comeback?

chief31;137233 wrote:

I have said all along that I think he belongs in the HOF and you know it.

I never said you didn’t.

chief31;137233 wrote:

All I have done is show that there is fact behind the opinion.

And the only reason I bothered with that is because I noticed you, with your BS back-handed insults, told someone that there is no fact behind their opinion.

There wasn’t. Look back at what Seek wrote. He was mostly wrong. He was mistaken about the number of SBs Warner played in. He was mistaken about how MVPs are selected. He was mistaken about Warner’s stats. He was basing his opinion, not on facts, but on his opinion that he didn’t like the Warner played when he watched him.

I didn’t say his opinion was stupid. I didn’t say he didn’t have a right to it. I just said it wasn’t factual. Because it wasn’t. To my knowledge, he wasn’t offended. That’s because no reasonable person could be offended,

And you have a lot of balls to claim that I’m back-handing insults. I’ve read your posts, you know.

chief31;137233 wrote:

You were as wrong as could be. And, even with proof, you still want to act all smug and insulting.

Telling someone that there are no facts behind their opinion is always going to be wrong, as long as the opinion is honest.

This is where we’ll never agree. My honest opinion might be that Herm Edwards was the greatest coach the Chiefs ever had, and was only brought down by bad luck. That doesn’t make my honest opinion somehow right. My honest opinion might be that Brodie Croyle was better than Len Dawson because I really liked Brodie’s throwing mechanics more. It doesn’t make me right. Opinions actually can be wrong.

chief31;137233 wrote:

Well, the next time you have trouble with someone on these boards, don’t point any fingers. Because you know exactly where it starts.

If you want to insult people, then expect them to be insulted.

Saying that someones opinion isn’t supported by facts isn’t an insult. There isn’t a person thin-skinned enough in this world to be insulted by that.

And it seems every time I log on, you’re fighting with someone (and it’s not usually me). Do you really think your overall tone isn’t responsible for that? You troll for fight a whole lot more than I ever thought of doing.

chief31;137233 wrote:

I think you are a very smart guy.

You are too. You were smart enough to hate Herm before it was popular.

chief31;137233 wrote:

You present alot of great arguments across this board.

Thank you.

chief31;137233 wrote:

But you seem so eager to act like a juvenile and start a fight when you do it.

I didn’t start anything. You know this. Go to the front of the thread and check if you doubt.

chief31;137233 wrote:

It’s just BS, with the only purpose being to try and get people angry.

I’d love to know exactly what I said that was insulting. Saying its foolish to compare Warner to himself in terms of stats? Saying that someone’s opinion is based on things that are true? Are you really going to pretend that this is any worse than what you regularly post? Really?

chief31;137233 wrote:

I think you should stick with what you are good at, talking football, and leave the child’s play to the children.

I’ve been talking football. I had one simple question that you never answered.

Is there anyone in NFL history that has Kurt Warner’s accomplishments (MVPs, SBs, stats) and is not in the HOF? Anyone?

If not, I don’t see why you’re still debating this.