Home › Forums › Kansas City Chiefs › KC Chiefs News and Discussion › I want this RB — too good to pass up.
- This topic is empty.
-
AuthorPosts
-
12/25/2018 at 8:37 pm #754061
brdempsey69
MemberHere is a RB that may fall to them in round 2 & if he’s available, the Chiefs must take him, as he is said to be a great character guy & brother is he ever EXPLOSIVE!! We need a replacement for Kareem Hunt (as well as DAT), and this guy fits the bill.
That would be Bryce Love, the Stanford RB, 5-10, 196 lbs. He fits the Chiefs Offense PERFECTLY, and he has blazing speed.
Here is his profile and a video of him. The video should have you licking your chops.
http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2019BLove.php
I get that the Chiefs need Defense, but the need is also there for an explosive play-maker at RB, and I’m convinced that this guy is the best RB in the draft, as far as RB’s that fit the Chiefs Offense. I’ll be paying close attention to this guy at draft time.
12/25/2018 at 11:28 pm #1069390Chiefs4life24
ParticipantI want them to draft Oklahoma’s Rodney Anderson
12/26/2018 at 12:30 am #1069391brdempsey69
Member@Chiefs4life24 346287 wrote:
I want them to draft Oklahoma’s Rodney Anderson
Anderson is listed over here as a 4th rounder. Possible durability issues.
http://walterfootball.com/draft2019RB.php
Personally, I prefer Love’s speed, as he’s the fastest back in the draft. Another guy I prefer is a junior that has declared. Darrell Henderson of Memphis who ran for 1909 yards in 2018 & has good speed.
12/26/2018 at 2:48 pm #1069396Seek
MemberGood Running backs can be found everywhere. We need corners, Safeties and linebackers. I would very irritated taking a Running back with a 2nd rounder.
12/26/2018 at 3:47 pm #1069397brdempsey69
Member@Seek 346295 wrote:
Good Running backs can be found everywhere. We need corners, Safeties and linebackers. I would very irritated taking a Running back with a 2nd rounder.
Nobody cares about your feelings being hurt if a RB gets taken at the end of Round 2. Everybody is aware of our Defensive needs, Captain Obvious. The biggest need there is a new DC, as Sutton can’t coach the Defenders that we already have (see Jordan Lucas being benched for no good reason, in favor of an ineffective Sorensen). What makes anyone think that he can coach any newcomers to the fold in 2019? Besides, they need at least one talented veteran in FA to add to their DB’s. As for LB’s, the current ones are being victimized by Sutton’s poor scheming. With better coaching (especially in the area of TACKLING & DB’s looking back for the ball), this current group might not be so problematic.
The need is also there to replace Kareem Hunt, as the Offense hasn’t been the same without him. Opposing Defenses are stopping Williams at critical times, whereas they may not have stopped Hunt, plus the big plays Hunt provided are no longer there. Anybody who thinks Hunt’s loss hasn’t hurt the Chiefs is only kidding themselves.
Bryce Love is a great character guy with 4.3 speed & he fits Andy Reid’s Offense and would be a threat to score from anywhere on the field.
12/26/2018 at 4:10 pm #1069398Seek
Member@brdempsey69 346297 wrote:
Nobody cares about your feelings being hurt if a RB gets taken at the end of Round 2. Everybody is aware of our Defensive needs, Captain Obvious. The biggest need there is a new DC, as Sutton can’t coach the Defenders that we already have (see Jordan Lucas being benched for no good reason, in favor of an ineffective Sorensen). What makes anyone think that he can coach any newcomers to the fold in 2019? Besides, they need at least one talented veteran in FA to add to their DB’s. As for LB’s, the current ones are being victimized by Sutton’s poor scheming. With better coaching (especially in the area of TACKLING & DB’s looking back for the ball), this current group might not be so problematic.
The need is also there to replace Kareem Hunt, as the Offense hasn’t been the same without him. Opposing Defenses are stopping Williams at critical times, whereas they may not have stopped Hunt, plus the big plays Hunt provided are no longer there. Anybody who thinks Hunt’s loss hasn’t hurt the Chiefs is only kidding themselves.
Bryce Love is a great character guy with 4.3 speed & he fits Andy Reid’s Offense and would be a threat to score from anywhere on the field.
Well be prepared to be disappointed then. We Don’t need a running back with the second round pick when there is clearly obvious holes over running back…. Effective running backs are found all through the draft and are available in FA because there is so many options. I mean the clear favorite based on National writers has Levon Bell coming to KC…. Phillip Lindsey was undrafted. K. Hunt was a 3rd rounder. James Conner was a 3rd rounder, Kamara was a 3rd rounder, on and on….
Spencer Ware 51 carries for 246 yards and a 4.8 yard per carry average.
D.Williams 39 carriers for 205 yards an a 5.3 yard per carr average
K. Hunt 181 carriers for 824 yards, and average of 4.6 yards per carry.Based on the stats, the offense is running the ball better without Hunt.
Individually the D. Willams and S. Ware are behind Hunt in yards per catch but together they have more than doubled Hunts yards in just four games.
The biggest Drop off with our offense has been S. Watkins. Not Kareem Hunt.
12/26/2018 at 4:47 pm #1069399brdempsey69
Member@Seek 346298 wrote:
Well be prepared to be disappointed then. We Don’t need a running back with the second round pick when there is clearly obvious holes over running back…. Effective running backs are found all through the draft and are available in FA because there is so many options. I mean the clear favorite based on National writers has Levon Bell coming to KC…. Phillip Lindsey was undrafted. K. Hunt was a 3rd rounder. James Conner was a 3rd rounder, Kamara was a 3rd rounder, on and on….
Spencer Ware 51 carries for 246 yards and a 4.8 yard per carry average.
D.Williams 39 carriers for 205 yards an a 5.3 yard per carr average
K. Hunt 181 carriers for 824 yards, and average of 4.6 yards per carry.Based on the stats, the offense is running the ball better without Hunt.
Individually the D. Willams and S. Ware are behind Hunt in yards per catch but together they have more than doubled Hunts yards in just four games.
The biggest Drop off with our offense has been S. Watkins. Not Kareem Hunt.
Opposing Defenses are willing to concede Ware and the Williams guys those yards in order to slow down the Chiefs passing game & quick scoring. They were not willing to do that with Hunt.
As far as stats go, you forgot the most important one of all…………..points on the scoreboard. When Hunt was on the field (without Watkins), the Chiefs managed to put up 6 Offensive TD’s against the Rams, but since then scoring has been reduced significantly. Therefore, your statement of “The biggest Drop off with our offense has been S. Watkins. Not Kareem Hunt” is pure BUNK. The biggest drop-off has been Hunt’s absence, and only an idiot would think otherwise. Ware and the Williams guys are not home-run threats, whereas Hunt was.
As far as your statement of “Well be prepared to be disappointed then. We Don’t need a running back with the second round pick when there is clearly obvious holes over running back” — how do you know who they are going to take? ANSWER: You don’t. What you think they need or don’t need is irrelevant, as your analysis is laughable, anyways.
12/26/2018 at 5:27 pm #1069400Seek
Member@brdempsey69 346299 wrote:
Opposing Defenses are willing to concede Ware and the Williams guys those yards in order to slow down the Chiefs passing game & quick scoring. They were not willing to do that with Hunt.
As far as stats go, you forgot the most important one of all…………..points on the scoreboard. When Hunt was on the field (without Watkins), the Chiefs managed to put up 6 Offensive TD’s against the Rams, but since then scoring has been reduced significantly. Therefore, your statement of “The biggest Drop off with our offense has been S. Watkins. Not Kareem Hunt” is pure BUNK. The biggest drop-off has been Hunt’s absence, and only an idiot would think otherwise. Ware and the Williams guys are not home-run threats, whereas Hunt was.
As far as your statement of “Well be prepared to be disappointed then. We Don’t need a running back with the second round pick when there is clearly obvious holes over running back” — how do you know who they are going to take? ANSWER: You don’t. What you think they need or don’t need is irrelevant, as your analysis is laughable, anyways.
Why are you being so negative towards me? Trying to run off the few left loyal people on this board. its working.
12/26/2018 at 5:36 pm #1069401Seek
Member[QUOTE= how do you know who they are going to take? ANSWER: You don’t. What you think they need or don’t need is irrelevant, as your analysis is laughable, anyways.
I would argue the same as you…You are irrelevant to what the Chiefs do just as is your opinion. The chiefs will address the running back outside of the draft or later in the draft, not in the top two rounds. We are losing because of the defense. Not the Running Back.. Spending a Second Rounder on a running BACK is absured and would be horrible management of the team. Thank goodness you don’t run the team but rather cyber bully.
12/26/2018 at 6:16 pm #1069402brdempsey69
Member@Seek 346302 wrote:
I would argue the same as you…You are irrelevant to what the Chiefs do just as is your opinion. The chiefs will address the running back outside of the draft or later in the draft, not in the top two rounds. We are losing because of the defense. Not the Running Back.. Spending a Second Rounder on a running BACK is absured and would be horrible management of the team. Thank goodness you don’t run the team but rather cyber bully.
You have no way of knowing that, therefore that statement is pure BUNK. You’re statement of “Spending a Second Rounder on a running BACK is absured and would be horrible management of the team.” is also pure BUNK. I can go on and on with a list of teams — including the Chiefs — that have spent a 2nd round pick on a RB in previous drafts. Adding a potential dynamic playmaker at RB with one of two late 2nd round picks to replace one that has been lost, is not “horrible management”, as you say. It’s simply trying fill a need. Many posters at Arrowhead Addict concur that the need is becoming glaringly obvious over the past few weeks since Hunt’s departure.
Nobody pointed a gun to your head and made you come in and start trolling this thread. It would have been one thing if you had said “I’d prefer a Defensive player, but I can understand trying to get a replacement for Hunt if they think the RB is that good”, but instead you come across like you’d crap in your diaper if the Chiefs took a RB with one of those two late 2nd-round picks, as evidenced by your statement of “I would very irritated taking a Running back with a 2nd rounder“. Chances are you might just get irritated. So what?
As for me, if they don’t take a RB in round 2, it’s not going to hurt me at all. I’ll live with whoever they take — same as you’ll have to do. If the Chiefs don’t find a dynamic RB to replace Hunt, it’s going to hurt the Chiefs much more than it’s going to hurt me or anyone else. In case you didn’t notice, the Chiefs took all Defensive players except for their last selection in the 2018 draft and the results? Defense didn’t improve, at all. Again, the 1st step towards fixing this Defense is a new DC and better coaching.
12/26/2018 at 6:40 pm #1069403brdempsey69
Member@Seek 346302 wrote:
I would argue the same as you…You are irrelevant to what the Chiefs do just as is your opinion. The chiefs will address the running back outside of the draft or later in the draft, not in the top two rounds. We are losing because of the defense. Not the Running Back.. Spending a Second Rounder on a running BACK is absured and would be horrible management of the team. Thank goodness you don’t run the team but rather cyber bully.
And one more thing. That statement of “”We are losing because of the Defense” isn’t completely true. In the Rams game, 5 turnovers (2 defensive TD’s and a third setting up a short field for a Rams Offensive TD) by the Offense contributed the most to that loss. In the 2nd LAC game, the Offense had the chance to seal the game at the end, but instead went 3 and out & gave the Chargers an opportunity they never should have had (and the Special Teams didn’t help by giving them poor field position to start that series with the penalty).
And I never said I was relevant to what the Chiefs do, but guess what? You aren’t, either.
12/26/2018 at 7:05 pm #1069404Seek
MemberI dont have a problem with the chiefs picking a rb in the first round. just not with our needs glaring at us with who we have on the team. I read the kc star article where andy is very high on the William’s kid we signed as undrafted rookie starting he has all the attributes he wants and he does not put a lot of stock into one running back because they get hurt often.
so to your need of Bryce love. no thank you specially not a rb who is projected to be a 3rd down back at best. a 20 or less carry rb and one who needs to work on catching the ball away from his body instead of cradling it. one who has been described as a poor blocker because his size is too small and gets destroyed by bigger line backers, whose only real attributes is his speed. definatley not worth a second round pick but what do I know. your the guru with all the answers.
yes there is a need for a rb…and the draft is the best place for that given our signing needs and cap… but it’s a luxary priority over defensive needs…. using a second round pick on a rb this year just ignores the real problem.
with that… I’ve enjoyed it here but you rubbed me wrong and I apologize if I did to you. it was not my intent it I never once attacked you but you attacked me so with that.. enjoy this dying site… you are doing great killing it more.
12/26/2018 at 7:50 pm #1069406brdempsey69
Member@Seek 346307 wrote:
I dont have a problem with the chiefs picking a rb in the first round. just not with our needs glaring at us with who we have on the team. I read the kc star article where andy is very high on the William’s kid we signed as undrafted rookie starting he has all the attributes he wants and he does not put a lot of stock into one running back because they get hurt often.
so to your need of Bryce love. no thank you specially not a rb who is projected to be a 3rd down back at best. a 20 or less carry rb and one who needs to work on catching the ball away from his body instead of cradling it. one who has been described as a poor blocker because his size is too small and gets destroyed by bigger line backers, whose only real attributes is his speed. definatley not worth a second round pick but what do I know. your the guru with all the answers.
yes there is a need for a rb…and the draft is the best place for that given our signing needs and cap… but it’s a luxary priority over defensive needs…. using a second round pick on a rb this year just ignores the real problem.
with that… I’ve enjoyed it here but you rubbed me wrong and I apologize if I did to you. it was not my intent it I never once attacked you but you attacked me so with that.. enjoy this dying site… you are doing great killing it more.
Who said anything about taking a RB in Round 1? My initial post clearly said ROUND 2. If you are sincerely wondering why I refer to your analysis as laughable, well there is your answer.
Again, your analysis is LAUGHABLE. If Love was only a “projected 3rd down back”, as you say, then Charlie Campbell wouldn’t mock draft him to the Chiefs, as he does here: http://walterfootball.com/draft2019charlie_2.php . It may be true that his blocking skills need work, but that’s something that is coachable.
I never said they needed Bryce Love and only Bryce Love. I did make mention of Darrell Henderson of Memphis & never said that C4L’s choice of Rodney Anderson was a bad one. You are ripping things out of context, as I’ve seen you do countless times before.
You keep talking about Defensive needs, but never address the big elephant in the room, which is the DC, which is where they need to start & has nothing to do with the draft. That’s a coaching change that is needed & then they can proceed with acquiring players to try to shore up this Defense. That is the real problem — COACHING.
As for “killing this site”, that too, is pure BUNK. It’s your analysis here in this thread that is being killed. When I started this thread, I suspected that you would chime in with something foolish, instead of something credible or constructive & sure enough, you did with the arm-chair GM drivel of “I’d be irritated if they take a RB with a 2nd round”. Got news for you — many teams have done that in the past & it is a possibility that the Chiefs could do it in 2019, regardless of how much you may dislike it. And it’s not a “luxury priority”, as you say, unless the Chiefs bring Hunt back — then it becomes a luxury.
12/26/2018 at 8:16 pm #1069407brdempsey69
MemberI will also add that I like Alex Barnes of Kansas State and he might be available in Round 3 or 4. Big back who can be an every down back.
What say you to him C4L?
12/26/2018 at 9:29 pm #1069408Seek
Member@brdempsey69 346309 wrote:
Who said anything about taking a RB in Round 1? My initial post clearly said ROUND 2. If you are sincerely wondering why I refer to your analysis as laughable, well there is your answer.
Again, your analysis is LAUGHABLE. If Love was only a “projected 3rd down back”, as you say, then Charlie Campbell wouldn’t mock draft him to the Chiefs, as he does here: http://walterfootball.com/draft2019charlie_2.php . It may be true that his blocking skills need work, but that’s something that is coachable.
I never said they needed Bryce Love and only Bryce Love. I did make mention of Darrell Henderson of Memphis & never said that C4L’s choice of Rodney Anderson was a bad one. You are ripping things out of context, as I’ve seen you do countless times before.
You keep talking about Defensive needs, but never address the big elephant in the room, which is the DC, which is where they need to start & has nothing to do with the draft. That’s a coaching change that is needed & then they can proceed with acquiring players to try to shore up this Defense. That is the real problem — COACHING.
As for “killing this site”, that too, is pure BUNK. It’s your analysis here in this thread that is being killed. When I started this thread, I suspected that you would chime in with something foolish, instead of something credible or constructive & sure enough, you did with the arm-chair GM drivel of “I’d be irritated if they take a RB with a 2nd round”. Got news for you — many teams have done that in the past & it is a possibility that the Chiefs could do it in 2019, regardless of how much you may dislike it. And it’s not a “luxury priority”, as you say, unless the Chiefs bring Hunt back — then it becomes a luxury.
I am sorry if I offend you, but you are taking things way out of context to make your own argument laughable.
1. I mentioned that I don’t care if the Chiefs take a RB in the 1st round, because I do value the position. While you never stated that, you did make it sound like I was saying that drafting a QB in the first two rounds is not plausible. I don’t feel that way. I just do feel that way with this up coming draft given our needs
2. I did Address the Elephant in the room. We need a new DC… That sounds very unlikely, thus the need for better players in crucial positions that were ignored in the last draft until later rounds when the value was lower. Thus my issue with taking a RB in the 2nd. I value corner, LB and safety over RB. There was times Sutton made the right play but the defense just failed to execute. Assuming coaching will just fix it, is ignoring a big part of the problem and trying to fix it by covering it up with a better offense.
3. The whole thread was started about too good to pass up with Bryce Love in Round two… So yes!!! this is about Bryce Love in the 2nd round. Which would irritate me. Unlike the Drama you made it out to be. I will get over it, and support him. I just ask that he not wear 27.
4. At no point did I say anything about Henderson or Anderson so it is you ripping it out of context. I think running back in the 3rd round is the sweet spot.
5. So to defend the defense – you are using a game in which Hunt still played in against the Rams, making your own argument for a RB a need over defensive help contradicting. Yes we drafted all Defense this year and still stink…
Again, I am sorry I offended you, apparently many times before. That being said, I have been a member here for long time. I don’t intend to leave. I will try to temper my words more closely for you, as I am actually a very agreeable with most people. If you can’t agree to be civil. So be it.
-
AuthorPosts
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.